Here is a new version with opinion and silliness removed. I can't promise not 
to be silly at the presentation but I will keep my opinions, other than 
NetBeans is the finest IDE, out of it. Ideally I will go through the slides in 
15 minutes (the PraxisLIVE demo will take a few minutes) and then focus on the 
good bits in a live demo.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xx2u18hti0cgfz9/AABSPXOP620d_GNR-EA7bQtPa?dl=0

Ken


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]> 
Sent: September 15, 2018 6:11 PM
To: dev <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: ApacheCon Presentation

The message to bring is even more positive than you think. :-)

For example:

"Oracle  has  not  abandoned  NetBeans."

...even that I'd recommend to omit, since it sounds a lot to me like "A has not 
done B", which sounds exactly like "A has in fact done B but here I am to 
defend A and tell you that it has not done B while we all know that yes it 
probably has done precisely B after all and I am here to defend it for various 
reasons etc."

I.e., just don't even go there. :-)

In a similar vein, I wonder about "Might  be  boring  but  the  mothers of  all 
 those  involved  were  very  proud  of  their  children."

Come on! What those people in Prague put together is now the basis of software 
at NASA and Boeing. Why, for what possible purpose, can one be cynical about 
that or use it as the basis for a cheap joke that means nothing at all?

Really, we are all part of something that is of significance and that is why we 
are involved in this project. Let's be straight up proud about it and there's 
simply no need at all to add any tone of cynicism, or halfhearted modesty, or 
fake whatever it is to it.

We're part of an absolutely uniquely awesome project -- the statistics are 
there for all to see:

https://projects.apache.org/statistics.html

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors

https://jelastic.com/blog/software-stacks-statistics-report-q2-2018/

No need to be falsely humble in any way at all -- instead, let each and every 
one of your slides exude the relevance and meaningfuleness of everything we 
here as a community have done together over very many years and are continuing 
to do for free and all in the best interests of everybody. :-)

Stand up straight with your shoulders back and represent everything that is 
good and honest about software development, which we so patently and clearly 
present ourselves to be in everything that we do.

Gj


Oracle has not abandoned NetBeans


On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Kenneth Fogel <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thank you to everyone who commented on the first set of slides in my 
> presentation. I have updated some slides to be more positive and much 
> less opinionated. Please provide me with any additional comments that 
> can make this presentation the best it can be.
>
> Here are the files from my DropBox. There are pptx, odp, and pdf versions.
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xx2u18hti0cgfz9/AABSPXOP620d_GNR-EA7bQtPa?d
> l=0
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> Sent: September 15, 2018 10:37 AM
> To: dev <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon Presentation
>
> Definitely the way you have it is the right way to go since that's 
> what most users will be doing and having too.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Kenneth Fogel 
> <[email protected]
> >
> wrote:
>
> > I have successfully installed the 8.2 plugins for JavaScript, PHP & JEE.
> > My question is whether it is better to compile and use the latest 
> > NetBeans
> > 9 code or stay with 9 plus 8.2 plugins for my presentation.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> > Sent: September 14, 2018 1:38 AM
> > To: dev <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: ApacheCon Presentation
> >
> > Maybe you can show/talk about JavaScript and PHP as well, those are 
> > popular languages and work well in NetBeans, in addition to Java, of
> course.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 1:25 AM, Kenneth Fogel 
> > <[email protected]
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That's why I sent out the slides so I'll be happy to remove those
> lines.
> > > For the demonstration component I plan to talk about Maven's 
> > > excellent integration, NetBeans as a platform by showing 
> > > PraxisLIVE, the ease of building plugins and remote coding on a 
> > > Raspberry Pi. Is there anything more important that I should be 
> > > showing? The session is 50
> > minutes long.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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