An interesting point: in addition to bundling the newest version of VisualVM as part of GraalVM, OracleLabs also provides a branded version of NetBeans called IGV, which is customized for the needs of GraalVM language developers and power users. IGV is as part of the GraalVM EE download.
Take a look at graalvm.org, especially graalvm.org/downloads. The IGV workflow is more analysis oriented, than development oriented, but the editing features are there. IGV benefits from NetBeans support of Java and dynamic languages. NetBeans benefits from OracleLabs interest in bringing the dynamic language compilation and tooling to unprecedented levels. In short: GraalVM EE already bundles Apache NetBeans tailored for the needs of OracleLabs. Gj On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:31 PM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > It's a tough situation -- and ideally Apache NetBeans would be bundled > with one or more of the OpenJDK distributions, though maybe that's not > something for us to decide, but it should be a need that one or more > OpenJDK distributions should feel -- the need to provide free and open > source tools together with free and open source JDK distributions. > > In any case, when any of them come knocking, there should not be a problem > for us to be available, i.e., so long as their distribution of Apache > NetBeans is not named Apache NetBeans, i.e., AdoptNetBeans, a distribution > of Apache NetBeans bundled with AdoptOpenJDK, CorrettoNetBeans, a > distribution of Apache NetBeans bundled with Amazon Corretto. Etc. Each > would come with a couple of plugins providing features specific to the JDK > that it is bundled with, etc. > > I think that's a logical consequence, if we continue to get our act > together, with thanks to the many individual contributors (Laszlo. Chris, > Neil, Antonio, Emilian, Junichi, Matthias, Sven, Thilina, Eric -- to name > the tip of the iceberg/layered cake). > > Gj > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:24 PM Christian Bourque < > christian.bour...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks! >> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 15:08 Kodewerk <k...@kodewerk.com wrote: >> >> > London Java Community >> > >> > >> > >> > > On Nov 14, 2018, at 9:50 AM, Christian Bourque < >> > christian.bour...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > LJC? >> > > >> > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:19 PM Kodewerk <k...@kodewerk.com> wrote: >> > > >> > >> The LJC is distributing using different formats. >> > >> >> > >> — Kirk >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> On Nov 14, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Lars Bruun-Hansen < >> lbruunhan...@gmail.com >> > > >> > >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> Not too impressed by Amazon Correto. So far they only provide .msi, >> > .rpm, >> > >>> etc, with no .zip/.tgz in sight. If you look at their .msi it >> doesn't >> > >>> actually seem to be doing anything else than unpacking. Doesn't even >> > set >> > >>> PATH. Then why distribute as an .msi ? >> > >>> >> > >>> I'm waiting for someone to provide JDK as a .tgz/.zip bundle as it >> used >> > >> to >> > >>> be the case (AdoptOpenJDK has got this right), preferably to be >> exposed >> > >> in >> > >>> such a way so it can be fetched automatically by a build farm >> without >> > >>> requiring popup accept of license. Heck, I hope someone will publish >> > JDK >> > >>> into a Maven repo some day so that the whole bundling idea can >> finally >> > be >> > >>> realized without hazzle. >> > >>> >> > >>> I'm hoping that distributing self-contained NetBeans Platform >> > >> applications >> > >>> would become easier in the future. Amazon Corretto doesn't help in >> this >> > >>> respect. But yes, great to see diversity and Amazon's initiative is >> for >> > >>> sure a testament to the JDK's omnipresence. >> > >>> >> > >>> Lars >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 10:47 AM Geertjan Wielenga >> > >>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >> >> > >> https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/amazon-corretto-no-cost-distribution-openjdk-long-term-support/ >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Gj >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 10:45 AM Geertjan Wielenga < >> > >>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Hi all, >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Just announced at Devoxx in Belgium: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> https://twitter.com/search?q=amazon+corretto >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> - Downstream distribution of the Open JDK. >> > >>>>> - No-cost long-term support. >> > >>>>> - At least quarterly releases. >> > >>>>> - Drop-in replacement. >> > >>>>> - Multiplatform - Linux, Windows, Mac, Docker >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> And it appears to be driven by James Gosling, founder of Java, and >> > >>>>> probably the most famous NetBeans enthusiast. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> I believe we should consider orientating ourselves around Amazon >> > >>>> Corretto. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Gj >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> > >> >> > >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> > >> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
