Same here, never heard of fbp. 

I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot:
The Apache Accumuloâ„¢ sorted, distributed key/value store is a robust, scalable, 
high performance data storage and retrieval system. 

(I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to the point and as a 
technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is trying to do.
Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed messaging system. "

> On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be removed (I'm not
> really advocating for anything). My point was meant to illustrate that it's
> not a draw, but it is potentially an educational reference. So, it depends
> on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag line.
> 
> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> We can get rid of the FBP reference.  I'll just be the excited tech guy in
>> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about it.
>>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I understand that flow-based programming is very important as the model
>> of
>>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood term. FWIW, I hadn't
>> heard
>>> of it until I started working with NiFi.
>>> 
>>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Donald,
>>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part. Thanks so much for
>>> sending
>>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be...
>>>> 
>>>> I have these thoughts to add...
>>>> 
>>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based programming is the basis of
>>> the
>>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's why it went into the
>>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be specifically there.
>>> Someone
>>>> else can weigh in on that.
>>>> 
>>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last part: "transform and
>>> move
>>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi to being only
>>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data is not all that NiFi
>>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system. It's a dataflow
>>>> management system. And that encompasses everything about the dataflow,
>>> from
>>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and routed, to how you
>> monitor
>>>> that, how you track down the data, how you configure and design the
>>>> dataflow to be better, etc.  The moving and transforming parts are just
>>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework that allows you to
>>> manage
>>>> *whatever* you do with the data.
>>>> 
>>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I can't come up with
>>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to everything :-)
>>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be happy to know what
>>>> others think. It would be great if people could land on the page and
>>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your sentence would get people
>>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jenn
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick (sorry). I'm just a fan
>> of
>>>>> concise and meaningful taglines.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of flow-based
>> programming.
>>> It
>>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is rather wordy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice, which makes it kind of
>>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter enough to be part
>> of
>>>> the
>>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point below. Same with
>>>> incubator
>>>>> status... I think that's readily available information that doesn't
>>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would eventually change).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's my stab:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to use, highly
>>> configurable,
>>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move files."
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my sentence could be
>>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what the true sticking
>>>> points
>>>>> for NiFi will be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -d
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like the proposed is too
>>>>> concise
>>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning.  Many projects claim
>> they're
>>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost always that just
>>>> isn't
>>>>>> true.  We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore.  We could have
>> said
>>>> that
>>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that we're weighing in
>> at
>>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its own.  We're
>> certainly
>>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and arguably in all the
>> ways
>>>> that
>>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat specific.  I agree
>>>> we're
>>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels misleading.  I agree
>> we
>>>>> have
>>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly configurable and
>> intuitive
>>>> but
>>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should provide some context as
>> to
>>>>> what
>>>>>> we mean.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source thing.  We can just
>>> be
>>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and what they're good
>> for
>>>> and
>>>>>> what they do.  We can even be self deprecating and point out what
>>> we're
>>>>> not
>>>>>> good at.  If it were a commercial construct or we were marketing
>> then
>>>> we
>>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to exclude some potential
>>>>> business
>>>>>> area.  But in this case, we're a tiny little open source project
>> that
>>>>> very
>>>>>> few people know about.  We're only going to grow by being
>>>> straightforward
>>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in to that vision and
>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid changing it
>> should
>>>> you
>>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Matt et al -
>>>>>>> The new website design is looking great...  I feel like the text
>>>> needs
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi heading, I suggest
>>> making
>>>>> it
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd also like to make
>>> the
>>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested text below. I
>> hope
>>> it
>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey, but others may
>> have
>>>>> good
>>>>>>> suggestions as well...  For example, in the last bullet, I don't
>>> know
>>>>> if
>>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if "authentication" would
>>> be
>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a better handle on
>>> that
>>>>> type
>>>>>>> of stuff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *Apache nifi *
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of flow-based
>>> programming.
>>>> It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable directed graphs of
>> data
>>>>>> routing,
>>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic. High-level features
>>>>> include:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   - Lightweight
>>>>>>>   - Scalable
>>>>>>>   - Highly Configurable
>>>>>>>   - Intuitive User Interface
>>>>>>>   - Component-based Extension Model
>>>>>>>   - Fine Grained Data Provenance
>>>>>>>   - Enterprise & Inter-system Security
>>>>>>>   - Content Encryption/Decryption
>>>>>>>   - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down to see all the
>>>>> features.
>>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was looking at it on my
>>>> phone,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... *
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the website based on the
>>> most
>>>>>>> recent
>>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main page and put it
>>>> here:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's a more appropriate place to host
>>>> that.
>>>>>>>> Anyways, I am going to continue working to port over the
>>> remaining
>>>>>> pages
>>>>>>>> and figure out a good way to integrate the documentation that
>> is
>>>>>>> generated
>>>>>>>> from building NiFi. Part of that is likely going to depend on
>>> what
>>>>>>>> repository the site is kept in. What I've done uses a number of
>>>> tools
>>>>>>>> (grunt, assemble, bower, etc) to actually build the site. I
>>> believe
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Apache CMS tool will be CMing the resulting site. Where do
>> others
>>>> CM
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> actual development artifacts of their sites? I did find another
>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>> project with a similar set up:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> and they appear to have a separate repository for there site.
>>>> Should
>>>>> I
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> requesting another repository for this? Or should I just add it
>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> existing incubator-nifi and have a top level folder for the
>> site?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also, I also noticed that jclouds has a deployment script which
>>>>> appears
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> automate that process as well. Is this how most projects handle
>>>> site
>>>>>>>> updates?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Aldrin Piri <
>>> [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Seems like a fair list of points to resolve.  Let me know how
>>> you
>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> to tackle it and if you'd like me to investigate any of them.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> AsciiDoc provides an HTML5 backend [1] that should provide a
>>> hook
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> help it be consistent in some form with the rest of the site.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>> http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/asciidoc.css-embedded.html#X35
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Matt Gilman <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Lets see give it a try and see how it looks. I
>>> thought
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> possibly just putting the drop in the toolbar but held off
>>>>>> initially
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> your comment about being consistently visible across all
>>> pages
>>>> is
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>>>> This brings up another issue that the current documentation
>>>> loads
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>> without the toolbar so that'll have to be addressed.
>> Haven't
>>>>> messed
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap so I'll have to see what's possible.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Outstanding issues...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - Better integrate documentation pages into website
>>>>>>>>>> - Get updated images (and properly scale them)
>>>>>>>>>> - Update website markup for production use (what I did was
>>>> quick
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> for the mockup so we continue this discussion)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Anything else I'm forgetting?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Aldrin Piri <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Looks good here.  I think clean and simple is the right
>>>>> direction
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> is just another step in that evolution. I think it is a
>>> matter
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> nit-picking at this point so the following comments come
>>> with
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> scope of
>>>>>>>>>>> importance.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the logo make it somewhere on the page
>>>>>>>> consistently
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the sake of keeping it across all pages in the site.  I
>>>> realize
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> logo in
>>>>>>>>>>> the navbar is rather redundant for the home page, but on
>> all
>>>> the
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>> pages such as documentation and general project
>> information,
>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> no presence in the current state.  One way to compromise
>>> might
>>>>> be
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> use of the commonplace technique where the logo on the
>> main
>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>>>>> gets placed into the navbar when scrolling would obscure
>> the
>>>>> logo;
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> other pages would then just have it in the header.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a slightly heavier weight on the navbar for the menu
>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 22:51 Matt Gilman <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I like what you did here and it sounds like most people
>> do
>>>>> too.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> provide some feedback and minor suggestions but thought
>> it
>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> easier to mock it up myself rather than trying to ask
>> you
>>> to
>>>>>> move
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>> and that there. Anyways, take a peek and lets continue
>>>>>> iterating.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> we're on the right track.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.
>>>> com/mcgilman/apache-nifi-site/
>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots/index.html.lite.v1.2.png
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Joe Witt <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No real thought behind it.  But I personally agree
>> with
>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> statement:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the logos look good as "nifi" and the text looks good
>> as
>>>>>> "NiFi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Bress <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I think this looks good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Maybe this is a little off topic, but I noticed
>>> that
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> logos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently use "nifi" whereas in text its
>>> consistently
>>>>>>> written
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi".  Any reason for the difference?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I kind of thing the logos look good as "nifi" and
>>> the
>>>>>> text
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "NiFi" so I might be questioning something that I
>>> am
>>>> OK
>>>>>>> with.
>>>>>>>>>>> But I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed they are different and was wondering if this
>>>> was a
>>>>>>>>> conscious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision or not.  Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Bress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ONYX Consulting Services
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Witt <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid design and agree with all your comments
>> aldrin.
>>>>> Very
>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015 6:27 PM, "Aldrin Piri" <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actuality tried it without the logo on the main
>>> page
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit empty.  I don't know that we necessarily need
>>> the
>>>>> logo
>>>>>>>>> there,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is needed.  Additionally, I viewed it as
>>>> being
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> "front
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page" inclusion, as other pages would just have
>> the
>>>> top
>>>>>>>> navbar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You caught me.  I was lazy and I recycled the
>>>> screenshot
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first iteration.  It would definitely need
>> updating,
>>>> but
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> largely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a placeholder for the concept.  I would
>>>> definitely
>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more engaging.  (faux edit) I rearranged
>>> things
>>>> a
>>>>>> bit,
>>>>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second instance of the logo and placing more
>>>>> emphasis
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the corner of the application.  Not sure if I
>>> like
>>>> it
>>>>>>>> better,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've provided the results [1] with all three of
>> the
>>>>>>>> submissions
>>>>>>>>>>> shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in chronological order [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The news section is a toss-up for me at this
>>> juncture.
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need one for eventually, but I'm not sure if
>> the
>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there yet.  It seemed a common thread among
>>> incubating
>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a section was omitted whereas those top-level
>>> projects
>>>>>>>> typically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included one.  Given that the project is on the
>>> verge
>>>> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the regular releases, perhaps this is increasingly
>>>>>> pertinent
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near future.  At minimum, one of the screen grabs
>>> from
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> blog
>>>>>>>>>>>> posts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good candidate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
>>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.v1.1.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/blob/screenshots/README.md
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mark Payne <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm liking it! Definitely looks nice. Though I
>>> would
>>>>>>>> provide a
>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I would include the NiFi logo
>> on
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> right-hand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> side,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's already in the top-left.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a NiFi 'brand' perspective, I would update
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> screenshot a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This screenshot is using the old logo in the
>>> top-left
>>>>>>> corner,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows all of the data disappearing before the
>>>>>>> RouteOnAttribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Processor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend we construct a dataflow that's more
>>>>>> appealing
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> target
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, perhaps integrating with other Apache
>>>> projects
>>>>>>>> (HDFS,
>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, for instance) or using (S)FTP processor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to have maybe like a 'Latest
>>>> News'
>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something where we could post things like "Version
>>>> 0.0.1
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> released!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really liking the concept - nice job!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks-Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:00:52 -0800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Aldrin Piri <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found some time today to provide another
>> look
>>>> for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were very minor changes to the core HTML as
>> is
>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>> served
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nidi homepage and it is largely just a
>>>> stylesheet.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal and clean, still driven by Bootstrap
>>> and
>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the colors from the UI itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot can be seen at
>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
>>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated code under the "lite"
>>> branch
>>>> at
>>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/tree/lite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Aldrin Piri <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this somehow gets sent twice.   My
>>>> first
>>>>>>>>> submission
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce as it exceeded the spam threshold
>>> when I
>>>>>> sent
>>>>>>>> it a
>>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours ago and it has yet to appear, so I'm
>>>>> sending
>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, good feedback.  I think
>>>> UI/UX
>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to find my livelihood in the
>>>> plumbing
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my attempt to try and tackle all the
>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>> fell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swoop:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that Bootstrap is everywhere, but I
>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> necessarily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a bad thing.  One could argue that
>>>>>> interfaces
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converging and users have the instant
>>>> familiarity
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that I am totally unaware of what it
>>>> takes
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> make a
>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional and maintain its feel across
>>>>> devices.  I
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part is important.  Personally, as a user
>> on
>>>> the
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> side
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen, I don't really understand why sites
>>> do
>>>>> not
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> jive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mobile device du jour these days; it
>>> should
>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little I've learned about UX and "Not
>> Making
>>>>>> [Anyone]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think,"[1] I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want an effortless experience; no pinch
>>>> zooming,
>>>>>> tap
>>>>>>>>>>> panning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way to take bits and pieces of
>>>>> bootstrap
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support that aspect without the cookie
>> cutter
>>>>> air,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for some guidance on that front
>> and
>>> do
>>>>> my
>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of the box though, the sample looked
>>> pretty
>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices to which I had access, and used
>>>>> constructs
>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content through a tiny screen is
>> accustomed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree on the front of the possibility
>> of
>>>>> brand
>>>>>>>>>>> dilution,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is an excellent point for
>>>> consideration.
>>>>>> As
>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original mailing, consideration was given
>> to
>>>>>>>> integrating
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application's aesthetics into the core
>> site.
>>>> Not
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan out in an appreciable way as I can see
>> it
>>>> in
>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> mind,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it is an avenue worth exploring.  It
>> may
>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> miss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark, but with my new found web dev
>> prowess,
>>> it
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker iteration than the first draft.
>>> You'll
>>>>>> see a
>>>>>>>>> slight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this via the graph wallpaper that is
>> featured
>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  This was muted a bit by a CSS
>>> overlay
>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay, but I definitely hedged as to whether
>>> or
>>>>> not
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, I wanted to get something out
>> to
>>>>> start
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> establishing a base for successive
>>>> iterations.  I
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard work everyone is putting in, the
>>>> project
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> closely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its first milestone for release, and
>> thought
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> important to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where possible to give a face to the
>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think this particular
>> project
>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>> pictures
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate what it's capabilities.  One of
>>> the
>>>>>>> facets
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believer about NiFi as a whole is that the
>>> end
>>>>> user
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers.  Citing the previous example of
>>>>>> Accumulo,
>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> intended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience is very technical in nature and,
>>>>>>> accordingly,
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed via the simple phrase of
>> "key-value
>>>>>> store."
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that NiFi's reach is far broader and can't
>> be
>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>> justice
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple phrase.  For the casual potential
>> user
>>>> who
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> strung
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-many processes of taking a file, manually
>>>>>>>> transforming
>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving it elsewhere, they need to see at
>>> quick
>>>>>> glance
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that can automate this tedium and
>>>> make
>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Succinctly, the value proposition needs to
>> be
>>>>> there
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical folks who will use this as a
>>>> framework,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The background for the header isn't
>> awesome,
>>>> but
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> knew I
>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating any licenses if I generated it
>>>>> myself.  I
>>>>>>>>> viewed
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a placeholder than anything else.
>> Definitely
>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer, even more definitively not a
>>> graphic
>>>>>>> artist.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from starting with the logo dark blue
>>> and
>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of filters and plugins via GIMP to get
>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a CSS gradient applied over top of it as
>>>> well
>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too loud.  It could definitely deal with
>>> being
>>>>>> muted
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Tony Kurc
>> <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey! It looks awesome! The existing site
>> was
>>>> put
>>>>>>>>> together a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we went with a very generic layout that
>>> worked
>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contained all the information expected of
>> an
>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big improvement! For people new
>> to
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upfront screenshot, with big fat links for
>>>>> things
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some things I didn't like about the
>> existing
>>>>> site
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glyphicon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "external" sites on the menu. I used
>>>> "link",
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used for "permalink". Also, we kind of
>>>> took a
>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go in each dropdown in the menu.
>> I'm
>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. I'd also like to see the
>> awesome
>>>>> guides
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent theme with the website and
>> maybe
>>>> have
>>>>>>> pdfs
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can print them out (which may be a dumb
>> idea
>>>> ;)
>>>>> )
>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>> pet
>>>>>>>>>>> peeve
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects is having a hard time finding the
>>>>>>>>> documentation I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javadocs or specifications - and keeping
>>>> around
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. I think we're still working
>>> on
>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the menu up top it should be
>> straightforward
>>>> to
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>> robust
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The blue you used is more of a reddish or
>>>>> purplish
>>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the app is more of a greenish blue. I'm
>> kind
>>>> of
>>>>>>>> curious
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greener
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would look like ... did you mock one up
>> and
>>> it
>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>> bad?
>>>>>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental question, should the website
>>> evoke
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> theme of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how I feel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe Witt
>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the two sides of the spectrum as
>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>> are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kafka.apache.org/  [super
>>> minimalist]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aurora.incubator.apache.org/ [
>>> quite
>>>>>> fancy
>>>>>>>>>>> looking ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both in my opinion are beautifully done
>> and
>>>>> make
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these (and others) provide great
>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrum have merit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is most important to me is that we
>> as
>>> a
>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>> rally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the expertise and willingness to
>>>>> contribute
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Joe
>> Witt <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both are bootstrap based.  Each is an
>>>>> iterative
>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep iterating as folks have time,
>>>>> willingness,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that this new look does not
>>>>>> distinguish a
>>>>>>>>> brand.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature enough to worry about that yet.
>>> We
>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info laid out enough to help grow a
>>>> community
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.  We need it laid out in a way
>> that
>>>>>> multiple
>>>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have a release, recruit some
>>>>>> committers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way and grow then perhaps
>>>> branding
>>>>>>>>> becomes a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..this motivates me to spawn another
>>> thread
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> type
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Adam
>>> Taft
>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a downvote -- I think it
>>> indeed
>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructive criticism...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the mockup looks like a very
>>>> generic
>>>>>>>>>>> "bootstrap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million other bootstrap based sites.
>>> I'd
>>>>>>>> personally
>>>>>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing utilitarian website over a
>>>>> bootstrap
>>>>>>>> theme,
>>>>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't try to be anything more than
>>> what
>>>> it
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This approach might be an acceptable
>>>>> tradeoff
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap look & feel is obviously a
>>>>> resource
>>>>>>>>> savings
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right price point.  But the site
>> mockup
>>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi "brand" in anyway. In fact
>>> the
>>>>>>>> opposite,
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down with this look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a funny side note, humorously for
>> me,
>>>>> this
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head when I saw the site:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-01/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Aldrin
>>>> Piri
>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partial fulfillment of the goals
>> of
>>>>>>>> NIFI-162, I
>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put together something a bit more
>>>> visually
>>>>>>>>> appealing
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My work can be found at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, work focused around the
>>>>> homepage,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to more content driven pages
>>>> minus
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headlining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant technology colophon is
>>>>> provided
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> README
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily driven by Bootstrap,
>>> existing
>>>>>> image
>>>>>>>>>>> resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and current site, and other
>>>>>> "artwork"
>>>>>>>>> which I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am neither a UX expert nor am I a
>>>>> renowned
>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input is welcome.  As a "version
>> 1.1"
>>> I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converge more with the application.
>>>> Ideas
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as bringing the toolbar styling
>>> and
>>>>>> color
>>>>>>>>> scheme
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like a reasonable path
>>>>> forward
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support, I can look at the next
>> steps
>>> to
>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, optimization, and
>> integration
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To aid in showing the intangibles
>> that
>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy of this design hosted at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aldrinpiri.com/apache-nifi/.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links are currently nonfunctional as
>>>> they
>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Aldrin
>> 

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