On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:

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> In my scenario there's an RC, a separate entity from the final release. And
> it may have passed through the release process and voted on. Or not. I
> didn't specify because it doesn't seem to matter.
>
> So "not kosher" seems to me like inventing one very specific process and
> using it as strawman to argue that RC is problematic by nature.
>

Of course, I'm not disputing that. The problem is with a very specific way
to handle RCs (vote on it and then just release from the same tag/branch
without re-voting) not with RCs in general.

Matthieu


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>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Release_candidate>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Release_candidate
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>>> The former involves further delays, a heavier process, ...
>>>
>>> Matthieu
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>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Milinda
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Ciaran < <ciar...@gmail.com>
>>> ciar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Assaf Arkin < <ar...@intalio.com>
>>> ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Alex Boisvert <<boisv...@intalio.com>
>>> boisv...@intalio.com>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > The confusion comes from the fact that we pseudo-released 1.3.
>>>  It
>>> > > should
>>> > > > > have been a RC1.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I don't think it's a good idea to use version number without
>>> > qualifiers
>>> > > > if
>>> > > > > they are not real releases.  Now version 1.3 has been "released"
>>> but
>>> > > > > there's
>>> > > > > no mention of it on the web site, there was no vote, etc.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The question is: does anyone have a copy they're using, thinking
>>> it's
>>> > the
>>> > > > official 1.3 release?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > The first question many people will have when they download 1.3.1
>>> is
>>> > > > "What
>>> > > > > happened to 1.3?"
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > 1.3.1
>>> > > > * Fixed issue with packaging, new version no. to remove confusing
>>> with
>>> > > > pulled-back release 1.3.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > 1.3
>>> > > > * Pulled back due to issue with packaging.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Assaf
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > alex
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>>> > > <matthieu.r...@gmail.com>matthieu.r...@gmail.com
>>> > > > > >wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Alex Boisvert <
>>> > <boisv...@intalio.com>boisv...@intalio.com
>>> > > > > >wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Matthieu Riou <
>>> > > > <matthieu.r...@gmail.com>matthieu.r...@gmail.com
>>> > > > > >wrote:
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >>> PS:  Did you mean "Cut a new 1.3 release" ?
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>> Mmh no, I've already cut 1.3 and if we re-release it's going
>>> to
>>> > be
>>> > > a
>>> > > > > new
>>> > > > > >>> version number, otherwise we'll end up with some confusion.
>>> Hence
>>> > > > > 1.3.1.
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> I guess I'm already confused... :-|   1.3 was not officially
>>> > > released
>>> > > > so
>>> > > > > >> where's the harm?
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > A few people already downloaded it and tried it. That's a first
>>> > > chance
>>> > > > of
>>> > > > > > confusion. And later when we'll ask "which version are you
>>> > running?"
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > > the
>>> > > > > > answer is 1.3, which 1.3 does that mean? Version numbers are
>>> cheap.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > I remember we had a similar discussion some time ago on this ML
>>> > about
>>> > > > 1.2
>>> > > > > > or 1.1, we re-released the same version but the consensus back
>>> then
>>> > > was
>>> > > > > that
>>> > > > > > it was "wrong" :)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Matthieu
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> alex
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > I don't mind as long as *something* is released <g>... although today
>>> our
>>> > > testing has flagged up some issues around XSL in BPEL that used to
>>> work,
>>> > > still trying to diagnose :(
>>> > > - Cj.
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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