On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
> > In my scenario there's an RC, a separate entity from the final release. And > it may have passed through the release process and voted on. Or not. I > didn't specify because it doesn't seem to matter. > > So "not kosher" seems to me like inventing one very specific process and > using it as strawman to argue that RC is problematic by nature. > Of course, I'm not disputing that. The problem is with a very specific way to handle RCs (vote on it and then just release from the same tag/branch without re-voting) not with RCs in general. Matthieu > > Assaf > > > > > > Matthie > > >> >> Assaf >> >> [1] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Release_candidate> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Release_candidate >> >> >>> >>> The former involves further delays, a heavier process, ... >>> >>> Matthieu >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Milinda >>> > >>> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Ciaran < <ciar...@gmail.com> >>> ciar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Assaf Arkin < <ar...@intalio.com> >>> ar...@intalio.com> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Alex Boisvert <<boisv...@intalio.com> >>> boisv...@intalio.com> >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > The confusion comes from the fact that we pseudo-released 1.3. >>> It >>> > > should >>> > > > > have been a RC1. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > I don't think it's a good idea to use version number without >>> > qualifiers >>> > > > if >>> > > > > they are not real releases. Now version 1.3 has been "released" >>> but >>> > > > > there's >>> > > > > no mention of it on the web site, there was no vote, etc. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > The question is: does anyone have a copy they're using, thinking >>> it's >>> > the >>> > > > official 1.3 release? >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > The first question many people will have when they download 1.3.1 >>> is >>> > > > "What >>> > > > > happened to 1.3?" >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > 1.3.1 >>> > > > * Fixed issue with packaging, new version no. to remove confusing >>> with >>> > > > pulled-back release 1.3. >>> > > > >>> > > > 1.3 >>> > > > * Pulled back due to issue with packaging. >>> > > > >>> > > > Assaf >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > alex >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Matthieu Riou < >>> > > <matthieu.r...@gmail.com>matthieu.r...@gmail.com >>> > > > > >wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Alex Boisvert < >>> > <boisv...@intalio.com>boisv...@intalio.com >>> > > > > >wrote: >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Matthieu Riou < >>> > > > <matthieu.r...@gmail.com>matthieu.r...@gmail.com >>> > > > > >wrote: >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >>> PS: Did you mean "Cut a new 1.3 release" ? >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> Mmh no, I've already cut 1.3 and if we re-release it's going >>> to >>> > be >>> > > a >>> > > > > new >>> > > > > >>> version number, otherwise we'll end up with some confusion. >>> Hence >>> > > > > 1.3.1. >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> I guess I'm already confused... :-| 1.3 was not officially >>> > > released >>> > > > so >>> > > > > >> where's the harm? >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > A few people already downloaded it and tried it. That's a first >>> > > chance >>> > > > of >>> > > > > > confusion. And later when we'll ask "which version are you >>> > running?" >>> > > > and >>> > > > > the >>> > > > > > answer is 1.3, which 1.3 does that mean? Version numbers are >>> cheap. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > I remember we had a similar discussion some time ago on this ML >>> > about >>> > > > 1.2 >>> > > > > > or 1.1, we re-released the same version but the consensus back >>> then >>> > > was >>> > > > > that >>> > > > > > it was "wrong" :) >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Matthieu >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> alex >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > I don't mind as long as *something* is released <g>... although today >>> our >>> > > testing has flagged up some issues around XSL in BPEL that used to >>> work, >>> > > still trying to diagnose :( >>> > > - Cj. >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > <http://mpathirage.com>http://mpathirage.com >>> > <http://wso2.org>http://wso2.org "Oxygen for Web Service Developers" >>> > <http://wsaxc.blogspot.com>http://wsaxc.blogspot.com "Web Services >>> With Axis2/C" >>> > >>> >> >> >