On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.r...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > In my scenario there's an RC, a separate entity from the final release.
> And
> > it may have passed through the release process and voted on. Or not. I
> > didn't specify because it doesn't seem to matter.
> >
> > So "not kosher" seems to me like inventing one very specific process and
> > using it as strawman to argue that RC is problematic by nature.
> >
>
> Of course, I'm not disputing that. The problem is with a very specific way
> to handle RCs (vote on it and then just release from the same tag/branch
> without re-voting) not with RCs in general.
>
> Matthieu
>
>
> >
> > Assaf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Matthie
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Assaf
> >>
> >> [1] <
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Release_candidate
> >
> >>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Release_candidate
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The former involves further delays, a heavier process, ...
> >>>
> >>> Matthieu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Milinda
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Ciaran < <ciar...@gmail.com>
> >>> ciar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Assaf Arkin < <ar...@intalio.com>
> >>> ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Alex Boisvert <<
> boisv...@intalio.com>
> >>> boisv...@intalio.com>
> >>> > > > wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > The confusion comes from the fact that we pseudo-released 1.3.
> >>>  It
> >>> > > should
> >>> > > > > have been a RC1.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > I don't think it's a good idea to use version number without
> >>> > qualifiers
> >>> > > > if
> >>> > > > > they are not real releases.  Now version 1.3 has been
> "released"
> >>> but
> >>> > > > > there's
> >>> > > > > no mention of it on the web site, there was no vote, etc.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > The question is: does anyone have a copy they're using, thinking
> >>> it's
> >>> > the
> >>> > > > official 1.3 release?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > The first question many people will have when they download
> 1.3.1
> >>> is
> >>> > > > "What
> >>> > > > > happened to 1.3?"
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > 1.3.1
> >>> > > > * Fixed issue with packaging, new version no. to remove confusing
> >>> with
> >>> > > > pulled-back release 1.3.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > 1.3
> >>> > > > * Pulled back due to issue with packaging.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Assaf
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > alex
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
> >>> > > <matthieu.r...@gmail.com>matthieu.r...@gmail.com
> >>> > > > > >wrote:
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Alex Boisvert <
> >>> > <boisv...@intalio.com>boisv...@intalio.com
> >>> > > > > >wrote:
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Matthieu Riou <
> >>> > > > <matthieu.r...@gmail.com>matthieu.r...@gmail.com
> >>> > > > > >wrote:
> >>> > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > >>> PS:  Did you mean "Cut a new 1.3 release" ?
> >>> > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > >>> Mmh no, I've already cut 1.3 and if we re-release it's
> going
> >>> to
> >>> > be
> >>> > > a
> >>> > > > > new
> >>> > > > > >>> version number, otherwise we'll end up with some confusion.
> >>> Hence
> >>> > > > > 1.3.1.
> >>> > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > >> I guess I'm already confused... :-|   1.3 was not officially
> >>> > > released
> >>> > > > so
> >>> > > > > >> where's the harm?
> >>> > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > A few people already downloaded it and tried it. That's a
> first
> >>> > > chance
> >>> > > > of
> >>> > > > > > confusion. And later when we'll ask "which version are you
> >>> > running?"
> >>> > > > and
> >>> > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > answer is 1.3, which 1.3 does that mean? Version numbers are
> >>> cheap.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > I remember we had a similar discussion some time ago on this
> ML
> >>> > about
> >>> > > > 1.2
> >>> > > > > > or 1.1, we re-released the same version but the consensus
> back
> >>> then
> >>> > > was
> >>> > > > > that
> >>> > > > > > it was "wrong" :)
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > Matthieu
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > >> alex
> >>> > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > I don't mind as long as *something* is released <g>... although
> today
> >>> our
> >>> > > testing has flagged up some issues around XSL in BPEL that used to
> >>> work,
> >>> > > still trying to diagnose :(
> >>> > > - Cj.
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
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> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >

Just so you're aware, it looks like there are still file handles being left
open on the 1.xx branch, WSDL files aren't being deep-deleted properly (when
under heavy deployment and un-deploment load.) We're investigating
currently, but haven't isolated the issue just yet :(
- C.

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