Hi all, My vote is for Design Approach #1
Can consider having the additional modifications: 1) Item Issuance & Shipment Receipt entities: Add columns (i.e. InventoryTransferHeaderId & InventoryTransferId ) to support inventory transfer with shipment. 2) Inventory Transfer Adjustment entity: For the tax. Regards, James Yong On 2018/04/24 08:20:44, Pawan Verma <[email protected]> wrote: > Here is the right link for the subtask OFBIZ-10365< > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-10365>. > > -- > Thanks and Regards, > > *Pawan Verma* | Sr. Enterprise Software Engineer > HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems > <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/> > Plot no. 80, Scheme no. 78 Part ||, Near Brilliant Convention Center, Indore, > M.P, India - 452010 > Cell phone: +91 9977705687 > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Pawan Verma <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > I have added possible 4 different Design approaches for this improvement > > at subtask OFBIZ-10365<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/10365>. We > > can discuss on this and finalize best possible approach for this task. > > > > -- > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > *Pawan Verma* | Sr. Enterprise Software Engineer > > HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems > > <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/> > > Plot no. 80, Scheme no. 78 Part ||, Near Brilliant Convention Center, > > Indore, M.P, India - 452010 > > Cell phone: +91 9977705687 > > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Pawan Verma < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hello All, > >> > >> Thanks, everyone for your thoughts and inputs. > >> > >> Here <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-10353> is the ticket > >> created for the same. Soon I will add the high-level design of the task. > >> > >> -- > >> Thanks and Regards, > >> > >> *Pawan Verma* | Sr. Enterprise Software Engineer > >> HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems > >> <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/> > >> Plot no. 80, Scheme no. 78 Part ||, Near Brilliant Convention Center, > >> Indore, M.P, India - 452010 > >> Cell phone: +91 9977705687 > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Pierre Smits <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> An internal order policy with appropriate process definition and > >>> protocols > >>> is a widely accepted solution. > >>> > >>> Best regards > >>> > >>> Pierre > >>> > >>> On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 14:59 James Yong <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > +1 for Inventory Transfer without using Order entity. > >>> > > >>> > On 2017-10-28 02:13, Swapnil Shah <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > Thanks all your suggestions. > >>> > > I think similarity of the discussed requirements with ordering flow > >>> lead > >>> > to > >>> > > the suggestions to use Order model. I don't have strong preference > >>> to use > >>> > > one over another as long as we are able to support bulk of the > >>> discussed > >>> > > requirements in this thread in a less complicated, easy to maintain > >>> and > >>> > most > >>> > > flexible way. > >>> > > > >>> > > If we all are in agreement to take Inventory Transfer route then > >>> let's > >>> > cut a > >>> > > JIRA to proceed with it. > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks, > >>> > > Swapnil > >>> > > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > From: James Yong [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:27 PM > >>> > > To: [email protected] > >>> > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Quantity missing for inventory transfer > >>> records > >>> > > > >>> > > Hi all, > >>> > > > >>> > > Having suggested possible entity changes to both approaches (with or > >>> > without > >>> > > Order entity), I prefer not to make use of Order entity for inventory > >>> > > transfer. Order entity is currently shared by Sales Order and > >>> Purchase > >>> > > Order. Using Order for transfer may make it harder to expand > >>> inventory > >>> > > transfer functionalities in the future. > >>> > > > >>> > > We can also look at OpenTap's implementation for reference. > >>> > > http://www.opentaps.org/docs/index.php/Transfer_Shipment > >>> > > > >>> > > Regards, > >>> > > James Yong > >>> > > > >>> > > On 2017-10-25 11:43, Swapnil Shah <[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > > Let's keep in mind that in reality it's the same single shipment > >>> that > >>> > > > needs to change hands between source and destination facility as a > >>> > > > part of single operational system. If we are willing to take Order > >>> > > > model route, then is it possible that we introduce a new order type > >>> > > > 'Replenishment Order (RO)' or 'Transfer Order' along with new > >>> Shipment > >>> > > > Type ‘Transfer Shipment’. And allow to have these ROs processed > >>> > > > through this single transfer shipment. > >>> > > > What it would mean is that: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 1. Create RO with Shipping Facility (i.e. originating > >>> > > > DC/Warehouse/Store) and Receiving Facility (i.e. destination > >>> > > > DC/Warehouse/Store). Possibly with same ‘Bill/Ship From > >>> Vendor’ > >>> > and > >>> > > > ‘Bill/Ship to Customer’ party id (as long as both > >>> originating > >>> > and > >>> > > > destination facilities are owned by same registered company or > >>> > business > >>> > > > entity). > >>> > > > 2. Allow to selectively reserve Inventory Items against RO items > >>> > (even > >>> > > > if it means overriding existing reservations). > >>> > > > 3. Allow warehouse/facility to group all common destination RO > >>> in a > >>> > > > single ‘Transfer Shipment’ during picking. > >>> > > > 4. Once shipment is packed/shipped from originating facility > >>> then > >>> > move > >>> > > > its status to ‘Shipped’. At the same time linked RO’s > >>> status > >>> > can > >>> > > > also be > >>> > > > marked as ‘Shipped’. This should affect the on Hand to the > >>> tune > >>> > of > >>> > > > shipped > >>> > > > units. > >>> > > > 5. Generate only a separate Tax Invoice (if applicable) against > >>> > linked > >>> > > > RO. > >>> > > > 6. Allow Destination Facility to ‘Receive’ the > >>> ‘Shipped’ RO > >>> > > > (similar to > >>> > > > PO receiving) but under the very same linked Transfer Shipment > >>> that > >>> > was > >>> > > > shipped from originating facility. This should affect the On > >>> hand to > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > tune of received units. > >>> > > > 7. Once whole Shipment is successfully received, move the > >>> shipment > >>> > to > >>> > > > ‘Received’ status. And at the same time linked RO can also > >>> be > >>> > > > marked as > >>> > > > ‘Completed’. > >>> > > > 8. Hit the necessary and relevant GL accounts and posting in the > >>> > > > process > >>> > > > wherever needed. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I am not sure about level of technical changes involved against > >>> other > >>> > > > suggested approaches, so please feel free to ignore if it looks > >>> over > >>> > > > complicated. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Swapnil > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > > From: Vaibhav Jain [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:46 PM > >>> > > > To: [email protected] > >>> > > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: Quantity missing for inventory transfer > >>> records > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Hello All, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks Swapnil for the detailed business scenarios. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks James for the reply. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I just want to convey that there is no need to use a separate data > >>> > > > model for inventory transfer. We can use order data model for > >>> inventory > >>> > > > transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > We can create a SO from one facility which create an automated PO > >>> for > >>> > > > another facility. Inventory transfer will be done using > >>> sales/purchase > >>> > > > order. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Stock move is used for intra-warehouse inventory transfer while > >>> > > > inventory transfer is for inter-warehouse inventory transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > We can achieve inventory transfer using order data model instead of > >>> > > > using separate data model for inventory transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 1. On the basis of from party and to party we can identify that > >>> > > > order is > >>> > > > > >>> > > > transfer order(In transfer order fromParty and toParty are > >>> same). > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 2. status of inventory transfer can be maintained in OrderStatus > >>> > > > entity. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 3. Tax is applied or not can be configurable. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 4. Shipment is already associated with order data model. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 5. Order adjustment can be used to record adjustments. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 6. The Orderitem entity can be used to transfer multiple > >>> products > >>> > > > at a > >>> > > > > >>> > > > time. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 7. Reservation and issuance are already working in order data > >>> model. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 8. The OrderContent entity can be used to attach Stock transfer > >>> > > > > >>> > > > document(legal document vary according to country law) with > >>> > > > inventory > >>> > > > > >>> > > > transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Please correct me if I missed something. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks & Regards > >>> > > > > >>> > > > -- > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Vaibhav Jain > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Hotwax Systems, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > [email protected] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, James Yong <[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Hi Swapnil, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > You may want to consider having the following modifications: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > 1) Item Issuance & Shipment Receipt entities: Add columns (i.e. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > InventoryTransferHeaderId & InventoryTransferId ) to support > >>> > > > > inventory > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > transfer with shipment. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > 2) Inventory Transfer Adjustment entity: For the tax. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > 3) Inventory Transfer Header entity: For group transfer (as > >>> > > > > discussed > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > earlier) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > James Yong > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On 2017-10-19 19:12, Swapnil Shah <[email protected] > >>> m> > >>> > > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Let me try adding few more insights/details with regard to > >>> stock > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > transfer flow. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > As we are referring to intra-organizational goods movement > >>> i.e., > >>> > > > > > so > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > movement of goods would be for and within the same business > >>> entity. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Here are few pointers (if it can help in assessing any kind of > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > technical trade-off that needs to be made with respect to > >>> current > >>> > > > implementation) : > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - Stock Transfer per se are going to involve goods exchange > >>> but > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > there > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > is > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > no real time money exchange involved between shipper and > >>> > > > > > receiver > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > as > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > they > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > are both the very same business entity in the legal sense. > >>> So > >>> > > > business > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > might not be necessarily interested in generating any sales > >>> or > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > purchase > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > invoice against such transactions. Nor will there be any > >>> real > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > time > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > payment > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > or invoice settlement required at either end. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - In financial terms there are tax implications but its > >>> > > > > > applicability > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > varies depending upon the laws of the land or > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > country/state-specific > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > tax > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > regulations. For example: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - In US the very same item transferred in certain state > >>> > > > > > might be > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > taxable at certain rate but totally exempted or taxed at > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > different rate in > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > another (someone with better understanding of US or EUR > >>> tax > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > regulations can > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > throw more light and let us know if currently > >>> intra-company > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > goods transfer > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > are even taxable or not) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - In India, the tax implications in the case of goods > >>> > > > > > transfer > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > is > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > now > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > shifted on the supply of goods. As a result: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - For inter-state transfer *there is tax liability > >>> and in > >>> > > > > > this > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > case, only a separate “Tax Invoice†* needs to be > >>> > > > > > issued > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > along > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > with > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > stock transfer note and supporting document > >>> (depending on > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > the inter-state > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > regulations while crossing the state borders) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - For intra-state transfers if business entity is > >>> having > >>> > > > > > single > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > registration for originating and receiving branches > >>> with > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > tax authority then *there > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > is no tax liability and hence no Tax Invoice *needs > >>> to be > >>> > > > issue. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Only Delivery Note should suffice to transfer the > >>> goods. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - For intra-state transfers if business entity is > >>> having > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > different > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > registration for originating and receiving branches > >>> with > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > tax authority then *there > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > is tax liability and in this case, only a separate > >>> “Tax > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Invoice†* > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > needs to be issued along with stock transfer note. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - Any kind of applicable tax (if any) needs to be paid to > >>> > > > > > the > >>> > > > state > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > only and a separate Tax Invoice needs to be generated in > >>> > > > > > this > >>> > > > case. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - The transfer shipment needs to follow certain status > >>> > > > > > transitioning > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > i.e. ‘Requested’ à ‘In-review’ à ‘Shipped’ > >>> (from > >>> > > > > > originating > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > facility) à > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > ‘In-transit’ à ‘Received’ (at destination > >>> facility). > >>> > > > > > As it needs to > >>> > > > be > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > tracked internally. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - The deemed transaction value and tax liability against the > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > transferred > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > goods should hit the accounting books against appropriate GL > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > accounts > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > per > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > store and a separate GL account against the tax authority > >>> (in > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > accordance > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > with business rules). > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > - Later at some point of time we may also like to > >>> systemically > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > build > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > the > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Transfer Requirement Planning and consolidate all the > >>> > > > > > individual > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > product-wise transfer ad-hoc or planned requests/requirement > >>> > > > > > for > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > a > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > common > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > destination facility (i.e., once any feature like > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6964 gets > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > implemented) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > I hope it should help to come up with a generic enough solution > >>> > > > > > that > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > can work across geographies with required level of flexibility. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Swapnil > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > From: James Yong [mailto:[email protected] > >>> > > > > > <[email protected]>] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:56 PM > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > To: [email protected] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Subject: Re: RE: Quantity missing for inventory transfer > >>> records > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Hi Vaibhav, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > My random thoughts on the possible implementation: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > We can have a new InventoryTransferHeader (ITH) entity as > >>> > > > > > mentioned > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > earlier > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > to manage group transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Having Quality attribute to InventoryTransfer entity is > >>> reasonable > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > since > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > we > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > may have an approval process before actual transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > User doing inventory transfer can have an Shipment option to > >>> > > > > > enable > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > shipment. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > When inventory transfer is approval and Shipment option is > >>> > > > > > selected, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > a corresponding Sales Order (SO) and Purchase Order (PO) will > >>> be > >>> > > > created. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > You may want to use a different Order Type for these transfer > >>> SO & > >>> > PO. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > No direct changes are allowed for transfer SO & PO. Changes can > >>> > > > > > only > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > be made at ITH and the associated Inventory Transfer entities. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > There should be an attribute in SO & PO to link to ITH. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > There is also a need to enhance the reservation function of SO > >>> to > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > specify the inventory item id for reservation. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > James Yong > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > On 2017-10-16 23:05, Vaibhav Jain < > >>> [email protected]> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Hello Swapnil/James, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > There are many dependencies of inventory transfer in Business > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Requirements > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > like: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > 1. In Inventory transfer generally, there is more than one > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > product > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > in > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > any inventory transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > 2. Inventory transfer should have an association with > >>> > > > > > > Shipment > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > which is > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > missing. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > 3. Inventory transfer should have an association with > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Accounting > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > which > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > is missing. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > 4. Tax should be calculated(Applicable in India after > >>> GST) on > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > inventory > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > 5. If the tax is exempted then need "Stock transferring" > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > documentation. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > 6. Tracking of Transferred inventory. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > 7. Tracking of associated peoples(Picker, Packer, driver) > >>> > > > > > > with > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > the > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > respective transfer order. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Most of the attribute of inventory transfer is belongs to > >>> Order > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > management system. Hence we should have a flow to create a > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > "Transfer > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Order" for inventory transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Inventory Transfer can be treated as "Receive product". > >>> Business > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > does > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > not have workflows to receive the product directly i.e. PO > >>> > > > > > > should > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > be > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > created to receive the product. If anyone wants to surpass > >>> the > >>> > > > > > > PO > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > workflow and want to receive the product then "Receive > >>> product" > >>> > > > > > > is > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > useful. Same for inventory transfer we should have a flow of > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > transfer > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > order and inventory transfer can be used like "Receive > >>> Product" > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > workflow. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Please share your thoughts > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Vaibhav Jain > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Hotwax Systems, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > [email protected] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Swapnil Shah < > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Yes James, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > ITH should work. I would prefer to have ITH tightly coupled > >>> > > > > > > > with > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > InventoryTransfer(IT) i.e. even in case of single item > >>> > > > > > > > transfer > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > create corresponding entries in ITH and IT both to maintain > >>> > > > > > > > data > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > integrity. Also, We can try tying up Inventory Transfer > >>> with > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Shipment through ITH itself or a separate entity e.g., > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > InventoryTransferShipment. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Swapnil > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > From: James Yong [mailto:[email protected] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > <[email protected] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 9:26 PM > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: RE: Quantity missing for inventory transfer > >>> > > > > > > > records > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Hi Swapnil, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Another possible solution is to have an header entity, e.g. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > InventoryTransferHeader (ITH), containing additional or > >>> common > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > info > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > related to the group transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > For group transfer, ITH is created and each > >>> InventoryTransfer > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > will > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > contain a FK to ITH. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > For single transfer, ITH can be empty. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > James Yong > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > On 2017-10-14 18:59, Swapnil Shah > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Folks, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > One very frequent use case that we encounter is that any > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > transfer > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > request initiated from one facility to another is > >>> generally > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > for > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > multiple products as they all need to go in a single > >>> > > > > > > > > shipment > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > against transfer request so as to be cost effective. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Current schema has the limitation that any given > >>> inventory > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > transfer can only be for single inventory item (and hence > >>> > > > > > > > > only > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > one > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > product). > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Would it make sense and be feasible if we enhance the > >>> > > > > > > > > existing > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > design such that multiple products/inventory can be tied > >>> > > > > > > > > with > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > a > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > single transfer > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > (InventoryTransferId) request (possibly by having > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > InventoryTransferId > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > + InventoryItemId as PK) and shipment is tied up with it > >>> as > >>> > > > > > > > > well. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > + Of > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > course by leaving a proper audit trail via > >>> > > > > > > > > InventoryItemDetail > >>> > > > etc. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Let's share any further thoughts or similar business > >>> cases > >>> > > > > > > > > and > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > then we can try to support it if it is generic enough. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Swapnil > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > From: James Yong [mailto:[email protected] < > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > [email protected]>] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 9:36 PM > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Quantity missing for inventory transfer > >>> records > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Hi all, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > It is better to add InventoryTransferId column to > >>> Inventory > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Item > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Detail > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > (IID) table so that we easily link the IID record to the > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Inventory > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Transfer table. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > What do you think? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > James Yong > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > On 2017-10-13 23:18, "James Yong"<[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Hi Suraj, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the transfer detail be stored at Inventory > >>> Item > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Detail > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > table? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > James Yong > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > On 2017-10-13 16:44, Suraj Khurana > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > While creating inventory transfers, a new inventory > >>> item > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > created and successfully gets updated after > >>> completing > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > inventory > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > transfer. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > As per current implementation, we don't store > >>> > > > > > > > > > > transferred > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > quantity anywhere in *InventoryTransfer *entity and > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > quantity > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is only available on the newly created inventory > >>> item. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Problem > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is, it gets deluded on time being and user won't get > >>> > > > > > > > > > > exact > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > quantity for which > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > inventory transfer was initialized. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > IMO, we should maintain transferred quantity at > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > *InventoryTransfer *entity as well for proper history > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > maintenance > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > of records. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Please share your thoughts on this. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > -- > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > 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