My vote is for Approach#1. Thanks & Regards -- Yashwant Dhakad HotWax Systems http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:55 PM, James Yong <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > My vote is for Design Approach #1 > > Can consider having the additional modifications: > > 1) Item Issuance & Shipment Receipt entities: Add columns (i.e. > InventoryTransferHeaderId & InventoryTransferId ) to support inventory > transfer with shipment. > > 2) Inventory Transfer Adjustment entity: For the tax. > > Regards, > James Yong > > On 2018/04/24 08:20:44, Pawan Verma <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Here is the right link for the subtask OFBIZ-10365< > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-10365>. > > > > -- > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > *Pawan Verma* | Sr. Enterprise Software Engineer > > HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems > > <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/> > > Plot no. 80, Scheme no. 78 Part ||, Near Brilliant Convention Center, > Indore, > > M.P, India - 452010 > > Cell phone: +91 9977705687 > > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Pawan Verma < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > I have added possible 4 different Design approaches for this > improvement > > > at subtask OFBIZ-10365<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/10365>. > We > > > can discuss on this and finalize best possible approach for this task. > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > *Pawan Verma* | Sr. Enterprise Software Engineer > > > HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems > > > <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/> > > > Plot no. 80, Scheme no. 78 Part ||, Near Brilliant Convention Center, > > > Indore, M.P, India - 452010 > > > Cell phone: +91 9977705687 > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Pawan Verma < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Hello All, > > >> > > >> Thanks, everyone for your thoughts and inputs. > > >> > > >> Here <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-10353> is the > ticket > > >> created for the same. Soon I will add the high-level design of the > task. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Thanks and Regards, > > >> > > >> *Pawan Verma* | Sr. Enterprise Software Engineer > > >> HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems > > >> <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/> > > >> Plot no. 80, Scheme no. 78 Part ||, Near Brilliant Convention Center, > > >> Indore, M.P, India - 452010 > > >> Cell phone: +91 9977705687 > > >> > > >> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Pierre Smits <[email protected] > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> An internal order policy with appropriate process definition and > > >>> protocols > > >>> is a widely accepted solution. > > >>> > > >>> Best regards > > >>> > > >>> Pierre > > >>> > > >>> On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 14:59 James Yong <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > +1 for Inventory Transfer without using Order entity. > > >>> > > > >>> > On 2017-10-28 02:13, Swapnil Shah <[email protected]> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > Thanks all your suggestions. > > >>> > > I think similarity of the discussed requirements with ordering > flow > > >>> lead > > >>> > to > > >>> > > the suggestions to use Order model. I don't have strong > preference > > >>> to use > > >>> > > one over another as long as we are able to support bulk of the > > >>> discussed > > >>> > > requirements in this thread in a less complicated, easy to > maintain > > >>> and > > >>> > most > > >>> > > flexible way. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > If we all are in agreement to take Inventory Transfer route then > > >>> let's > > >>> > cut a > > >>> > > JIRA to proceed with it. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Thanks, > > >>> > > Swapnil > > >>> > > > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- > > >>> > > From: James Yong [mailto:[email protected]] > > >>> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:27 PM > > >>> > > To: [email protected] > > >>> > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Quantity missing for inventory transfer > > >>> records > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Hi all, > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Having suggested possible entity changes to both approaches > (with or > > >>> > without > > >>> > > Order entity), I prefer not to make use of Order entity for > inventory > > >>> > > transfer. Order entity is currently shared by Sales Order and > > >>> Purchase > > >>> > > Order. Using Order for transfer may make it harder to expand > > >>> inventory > > >>> > > transfer functionalities in the future. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > We can also look at OpenTap's implementation for reference. > > >>> > > http://www.opentaps.org/docs/index.php/Transfer_Shipment > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Regards, > > >>> > > James Yong > > >>> > > > > >>> > > On 2017-10-25 11:43, Swapnil Shah <swapnil.shah@hotwaxsystems. > com> > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> > > > Let's keep in mind that in reality it's the same single > shipment > > >>> that > > >>> > > > needs to change hands between source and destination facility > as a > > >>> > > > part of single operational system. If we are willing to take > Order > > >>> > > > model route, then is it possible that we introduce a new order > type > > >>> > > > 'Replenishment Order (RO)' or 'Transfer Order' along with new > > >>> Shipment > > >>> > > > Type ‘Transfer Shipment’. And allow to have these ROs > processed > > >>> > > > through this single transfer shipment. > > >>> > > > What it would mean is that: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > 1. Create RO with Shipping Facility (i.e. originating > > >>> > > > DC/Warehouse/Store) and Receiving Facility (i.e. destination > > >>> > > > DC/Warehouse/Store). Possibly with same ‘Bill/Ship From > > >>> Vendor’ > > >>> > and > > >>> > > > ‘Bill/Ship to Customer’ party id (as long as both > > >>> originating > > >>> > and > > >>> > > > destination facilities are owned by same registered company > or > > >>> > business > > >>> > > > entity). > > >>> > > > 2. Allow to selectively reserve Inventory Items against RO > items > > >>> > (even > > >>> > > > if it means overriding existing reservations). > > >>> > > > 3. Allow warehouse/facility to group all common destination > RO > > >>> in a > > >>> > > > single ‘Transfer Shipment’ during picking. > > >>> > > > 4. Once shipment is packed/shipped from originating facility > > >>> then > > >>> > move > > >>> > > > its status to ‘Shipped’. At the same time linked RO’s > > >>> status > > >>> > can > > >>> > > > also be > > >>> > > > marked as ‘Shipped’. This should affect the on Hand to > the > > >>> tune > > >>> > of > > >>> > > > shipped > > >>> > > > units. > > >>> > > > 5. Generate only a separate Tax Invoice (if applicable) > against > > >>> > linked > > >>> > > > RO. > > >>> > > > 6. Allow Destination Facility to ‘Receive’ the > > >>> ‘Shipped’ RO > > >>> > > > (similar to > > >>> > > > PO receiving) but under the very same linked Transfer > Shipment > > >>> that > > >>> > was > > >>> > > > shipped from originating facility. This should affect the On > > >>> hand to > > >>> > > > the > > >>> > > > tune of received units. > > >>> > > > 7. Once whole Shipment is successfully received, move the > > >>> shipment > > >>> > to > > >>> > > > ‘Received’ status. And at the same time linked RO can > also > > >>> be > > >>> > > > marked as > > >>> > > > ‘Completed’. > > >>> > > > 8. Hit the necessary and relevant GL accounts and posting > in the > > >>> > > > process > > >>> > > > wherever needed. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I am not sure about level of technical changes involved against > > >>> other > > >>> > > > suggested approaches, so please feel free to ignore if it looks > > >>> over > > >>> > > > complicated. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Thanks, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Swapnil > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > -----Original Message----- > > >>> > > > From: Vaibhav Jain [mailto:[email protected]] > > >>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:46 PM > > >>> > > > To: [email protected] > > >>> > > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: Quantity missing for inventory transfer > > >>> records > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Hello All, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Thanks Swapnil for the detailed business scenarios. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Thanks James for the reply. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I just want to convey that there is no need to use a separate > data > > >>> > > > model for inventory transfer. We can use order data model for > > >>> inventory > > >>> > > > transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > We can create a SO from one facility which create an automated > PO > > >>> for > > >>> > > > another facility. Inventory transfer will be done using > > >>> sales/purchase > > >>> > > > order. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Stock move is used for intra-warehouse inventory transfer while > > >>> > > > inventory transfer is for inter-warehouse inventory transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > We can achieve inventory transfer using order data model > instead of > > >>> > > > using separate data model for inventory transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > 1. On the basis of from party and to party we can identify > that > > >>> > > > order is > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > transfer order(In transfer order fromParty and toParty are > > >>> same). > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > 2. status of inventory transfer can be maintained in > OrderStatus > > >>> > > > entity. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > 3. Tax is applied or not can be configurable. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > 4. Shipment is already associated with order data model. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > 5. Order adjustment can be used to record adjustments. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > 6. The Orderitem entity can be used to transfer multiple > > >>> products > > >>> > > > at a > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > time. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > 7. Reservation and issuance are already working in order > data > > >>> model. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > 8. The OrderContent entity can be used to attach Stock > transfer > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > document(legal document vary according to country law) with > > >>> > > > inventory > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Please correct me if I missed something. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Thanks & Regards > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > -- > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Vaibhav Jain > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Hotwax Systems, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > [email protected] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, James Yong < > [email protected]> > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Hi Swapnil, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > You may want to consider having the following modifications: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > 1) Item Issuance & Shipment Receipt entities: Add columns > (i.e. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > InventoryTransferHeaderId & InventoryTransferId ) to support > > >>> > > > > inventory > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > transfer with shipment. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > 2) Inventory Transfer Adjustment entity: For the tax. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > 3) Inventory Transfer Header entity: For group transfer (as > > >>> > > > > discussed > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > earlier) > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Regards, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > James Yong > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > On 2017-10-19 19:12, Swapnil Shah < > [email protected] > > >>> m> > > >>> > > > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Let me try adding few more insights/details with regard to > > >>> stock > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > transfer flow. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > As we are referring to intra-organizational goods movement > > >>> i.e., > > >>> > > > > > so > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > movement of goods would be for and within the same business > > >>> entity. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Here are few pointers (if it can help in assessing any > kind of > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > technical trade-off that needs to be made with respect to > > >>> current > > >>> > > > implementation) : > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - Stock Transfer per se are going to involve goods > exchange > > >>> but > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > there > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > is > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > no real time money exchange involved between shipper and > > >>> > > > > > receiver > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > as > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > they > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > are both the very same business entity in the legal > sense. > > >>> So > > >>> > > > business > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > might not be necessarily interested in generating any > sales > > >>> or > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > purchase > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > invoice against such transactions. Nor will there be any > > >>> real > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > time > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > payment > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > or invoice settlement required at either end. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - In financial terms there are tax implications but its > > >>> > > > > > applicability > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > varies depending upon the laws of the land or > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > country/state-specific > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > tax > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > regulations. For example: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - In US the very same item transferred in certain > state > > >>> > > > > > might be > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > taxable at certain rate but totally exempted or > taxed at > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > different rate in > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > another (someone with better understanding of US or > EUR > > >>> tax > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > regulations can > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > throw more light and let us know if currently > > >>> intra-company > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > goods transfer > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > are even taxable or not) > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - In India, the tax implications in the case of goods > > >>> > > > > > transfer > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > is > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > now > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > shifted on the supply of goods. As a result: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - For inter-state transfer *there is tax liability > > >>> and in > > >>> > > > > > this > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > case, only a separate “Tax Invoice†* needs to > be > > >>> > > > > > issued > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > along > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > with > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > stock transfer note and supporting document > > >>> (depending on > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > the inter-state > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > regulations while crossing the state borders) > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - For intra-state transfers if business entity is > > >>> having > > >>> > > > > > single > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > registration for originating and receiving > branches > > >>> with > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > tax authority then *there > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > is no tax liability and hence no Tax Invoice > *needs > > >>> to be > > >>> > > > issue. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Only Delivery Note should suffice to transfer the > > >>> goods. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - For intra-state transfers if business entity is > > >>> having > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > different > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > registration for originating and receiving > branches > > >>> with > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > tax authority then *there > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > is tax liability and in this case, only a separate > > >>> “Tax > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Invoice†* > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > needs to be issued along with stock transfer note. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - Any kind of applicable tax (if any) needs to be > paid to > > >>> > > > > > the > > >>> > > > state > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > only and a separate Tax Invoice needs to be > generated in > > >>> > > > > > this > > >>> > > > case. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - The transfer shipment needs to follow certain status > > >>> > > > > > transitioning > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > i.e. ‘Requested’ à ‘In-review’ à ‘Shipped’ > > >>> (from > > >>> > > > > > originating > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > facility) à > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > ‘In-transit’ à ‘Received’ (at destination > > >>> facility). > > >>> > > > > > As it needs to > > >>> > > > be > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > tracked internally. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - The deemed transaction value and tax liability > against the > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > transferred > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > goods should hit the accounting books against > appropriate GL > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > accounts > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > per > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > store and a separate GL account against the tax > authority > > >>> (in > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > accordance > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > with business rules). > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > - Later at some point of time we may also like to > > >>> systemically > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > build > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > the > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Transfer Requirement Planning and consolidate all the > > >>> > > > > > individual > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > product-wise transfer ad-hoc or planned > requests/requirement > > >>> > > > > > for > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > a > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > common > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > destination facility (i.e., once any feature like > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6964 gets > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > implemented) > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > I hope it should help to come up with a generic enough > solution > > >>> > > > > > that > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > can work across geographies with required level of > flexibility. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Thanks, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Swapnil > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > From: James Yong [mailto:[email protected] > > >>> > > > > > <[email protected]>] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:56 PM > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > To: [email protected] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Subject: Re: RE: Quantity missing for inventory transfer > > >>> records > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Hi Vaibhav, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > My random thoughts on the possible implementation: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > We can have a new InventoryTransferHeader (ITH) entity as > > >>> > > > > > mentioned > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > earlier > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > to manage group transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Having Quality attribute to InventoryTransfer entity is > > >>> reasonable > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > since > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > we > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > may have an approval process before actual transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > User doing inventory transfer can have an Shipment option > to > > >>> > > > > > enable > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > shipment. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > When inventory transfer is approval and Shipment option is > > >>> > > > > > selected, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > a corresponding Sales Order (SO) and Purchase Order (PO) > will > > >>> be > > >>> > > > created. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > You may want to use a different Order Type for these > transfer > > >>> SO & > > >>> > PO. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > No direct changes are allowed for transfer SO & PO. > Changes can > > >>> > > > > > only > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > be made at ITH and the associated Inventory Transfer > entities. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > There should be an attribute in SO & PO to link to ITH. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > There is also a need to enhance the reservation function > of SO > > >>> to > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > specify the inventory item id for reservation. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Regards, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > James Yong > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > On 2017-10-16 23:05, Vaibhav Jain < > > >>> [email protected]> > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Hello Swapnil/James, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > There are many dependencies of inventory transfer in > Business > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Requirements > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > like: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > 1. In Inventory transfer generally, there is more > than one > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > product > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > in > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > any inventory transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > 2. Inventory transfer should have an association with > > >>> > > > > > > Shipment > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > which is > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > missing. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > 3. Inventory transfer should have an association with > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Accounting > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > which > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > is missing. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > 4. Tax should be calculated(Applicable in India after > > >>> GST) on > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > inventory > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > 5. If the tax is exempted then need "Stock > transferring" > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > documentation. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > 6. Tracking of Transferred inventory. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > 7. Tracking of associated peoples(Picker, Packer, > driver) > > >>> > > > > > > with > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > the > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > respective transfer order. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Most of the attribute of inventory transfer is belongs to > > >>> Order > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > management system. Hence we should have a flow to create > a > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > "Transfer > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Order" for inventory transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Inventory Transfer can be treated as "Receive product". > > >>> Business > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > does > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > not have workflows to receive the product directly i.e. > PO > > >>> > > > > > > should > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > be > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > created to receive the product. If anyone wants to > surpass > > >>> the > > >>> > > > > > > PO > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > workflow and want to receive the product then "Receive > > >>> product" > > >>> > > > > > > is > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > useful. Same for inventory transfer we should have a > flow of > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > transfer > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > order and inventory transfer can be used like "Receive > > >>> Product" > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > workflow. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Please share your thoughts > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Vaibhav Jain > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Hotwax Systems, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > [email protected] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Swapnil Shah < > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Yes James, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > ITH should work. I would prefer to have ITH tightly > coupled > > >>> > > > > > > > with > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > InventoryTransfer(IT) i.e. even in case of single item > > >>> > > > > > > > transfer > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > create corresponding entries in ITH and IT both to > maintain > > >>> > > > > > > > data > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > integrity. Also, We can try tying up Inventory Transfer > > >>> with > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Shipment through ITH itself or a separate entity e.g., > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > InventoryTransferShipment. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Swapnil > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > From: James Yong [mailto:[email protected] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 9:26 PM > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: RE: Quantity missing for inventory > transfer > > >>> > > > > > > > records > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Hi Swapnil, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Another possible solution is to have an header entity, > e.g. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > InventoryTransferHeader (ITH), containing additional or > > >>> common > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > info > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > related to the group transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > For group transfer, ITH is created and each > > >>> InventoryTransfer > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > will > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > contain a FK to ITH. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > For single transfer, ITH can be empty. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Regards, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > James Yong > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > On 2017-10-14 18:59, Swapnil Shah > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Folks, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > One very frequent use case that we encounter is that > any > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > transfer > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > request initiated from one facility to another is > > >>> generally > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > for > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > multiple products as they all need to go in a single > > >>> > > > > > > > > shipment > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > against transfer request so as to be cost effective. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Current schema has the limitation that any given > > >>> inventory > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > transfer can only be for single inventory item (and > hence > > >>> > > > > > > > > only > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > one > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > product). > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Would it make sense and be feasible if we enhance the > > >>> > > > > > > > > existing > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > design such that multiple products/inventory can be > tied > > >>> > > > > > > > > with > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > a > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > single transfer > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > (InventoryTransferId) request (possibly by having > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > InventoryTransferId > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > + InventoryItemId as PK) and shipment is tied up > with it > > >>> as > > >>> > > > > > > > > well. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > + Of > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > course by leaving a proper audit trail via > > >>> > > > > > > > > InventoryItemDetail > > >>> > > > etc. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Let's share any further thoughts or similar business > > >>> cases > > >>> > > > > > > > > and > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > then we can try to support it if it is generic > enough. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Swapnil > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > From: James Yong [mailto:[email protected] < > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > [email protected]>] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 9:36 PM > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Quantity missing for inventory transfer > > >>> records > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > It is better to add InventoryTransferId column to > > >>> Inventory > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Item > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Detail > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > (IID) table so that we easily link the IID record to > the > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Inventory > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Transfer table. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Regards, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > James Yong > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > On 2017-10-13 23:18, "James Yong"< > [email protected]> > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Hi Suraj, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the transfer detail be stored at > Inventory > > >>> Item > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Detail > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > table? > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > James Yong > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > On 2017-10-13 16:44, Suraj Khurana > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > While creating inventory transfers, a new > inventory > > >>> item > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > created and successfully gets updated after > > >>> completing > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > inventory > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > transfer. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > As per current implementation, we don't store > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > transferred > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > quantity anywhere in *InventoryTransfer *entity > and > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > quantity > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is only available on the newly created inventory > > >>> item. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Problem > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is, it gets deluded on time being and user won't > get > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > exact > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > quantity for which > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > inventory transfer was initialized. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > IMO, we should maintain transferred quantity at > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > *InventoryTransfer *entity as well for proper > history > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > maintenance > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > of records. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Please share your thoughts on this. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > *Suraj Khurana* | Sr. Enterprise Software > Engineer > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > *HotWax > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Commerce* by *HotWax Systems* Plot no. 80, > Scheme > > >>> no. > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > 78, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Nagar, Indore, M.P. India 452010 > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > >>> Pierre Smits > > >>> > > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services > > >>> > > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
