Le 21/08/2018 à 11:10, Gil Portenseigne a écrit :
I've not analysed the issue in details, but an in-middle solution should
be to remove the problematic links from trunk,
That's what I thought initially, and created OFBIZ-9241 for that. Then I thought we could simply hide them when the ecommerce component is not used, rather than removing them. Because they are useful, but I have not a strong opinion about that.

It seems Deepak and Michael have other ideas, let's see what will come from 
them. I mean in term of patches for review...

Jacques

and fill a new Jira for
implementing it in the better way :).
Gil

Le mardi 21 août 2018 à 10:10:03 (+0200), Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
OK, that your and Michael's opinions. So you prefer NPEs in code than hiding 
them when necessary?

What others think?

Jacques


Le 21/08/2018 à 09:45, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
Again, hiding is not a solution and is correcting an error with another
error.

-1

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 10:37 AM Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]>
wrote:

See my answer in the Jira, we can't tolerate NPEs, they are already there
for too long

Being smart is cool, being smart and clean is better ;)

Jacques


Le 21/08/2018 à 08:57, Michael Brohl a écrit :
We should neither simply remove those links nor should we have anything
hard coded.
Let's look for a smarter solution. No need to hurry, better take some
time to implement something sustainable.
Regards,

Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH
www.ecomify.de


Am 21.08.18 um 07:00 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
Of course, but I like to be able to get from the backend to the
frontend when it's possible.
I don't see any troubles keeping them once it's handled that way, but
theoretical ones .
Of course if the community prefers to remove them it's far easier and
was what I wanted to do initially before having this idea of hiding links
Jacques


Le 21/08/2018 à 01:03, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
Simple, don't put any logic that points outwards from the framework.
That
is sort of why we split repositories in the first place.

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:00 PM Jacques Le Roux <
[email protected]>
wrote:

Le 20/08/2018 à 16:53, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
Makes sense. However, i note reading in the JIRA that "we can simply
hide
the button when the ecommerce component is not present". That sounds
like
logic that points outwards which is a bad design IMHO.
I could not find a better way yet, I'm all ears for ideas.

Anyway, I think it is a reasonable step to take. +1
I attached a patch for today at OFBIZ-9241

Jacques

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 5:31 PM Jacques Le Roux <
[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi,

The proposition is in the title.

With the changes I'm introducing with OFBIZ-9241 there will few
differences in UI (and presence of js files) between the framework
only
and
the
framework+plugins

I must add:

      * since the old is often no longer supported and a release of
it is
always available (today R13) for users. I think removing the old
demo is
maybe
        not a big deal.
      * I found several cases where people, new to OFBiz, considered
OFBiz
as
what we call the framework, and were considering the plugins as
optional.
What do you think?

Jacques



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