Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]> writes:

> Le 13/06/2019 à 13:02, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit :
>> Hello Jacques
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> 1st please when you answer to dev ML don't add my email to this
>>> answer. I continuously and indefectibly follows this ML (as we are
>>> required as committer). I have an email filter to redirect all dev ML
>>> emails to a dev ML folder in my email clients (Thunderbird). Actually
>>> I have 263 such filters (OK I filter a lot :D). It's not much about
>>> you but I have seen a such pattern appearing these last times. So
>>> please guys, we don't need a copy ;)
>> Asking every person on that list to remember your personnal preferences
>> and requiring them to manually remove your email address from recipients
>> when using “Replying all” does not scale. :-)
>
> Actually we should never use “Replying all” when replying to an ML.
> Else you get these useless and annoying duplicates not filtered, that's what 
> I meant.

If you have duplicates, then it's a bug in the mailing-list software
that should be reported to INFRA.  The right thing would be to not
resend an email to user both present in the recipients and subscribed to
a list (GNU Mailman is doing that).

> We should use "Replied to List" when it exists. It appears for me in 
> Thunderbird when fitting.
> I hope other email clients and webmails are allowing the same.
> I guess for that the reply-to value must be set to [email protected] and 
> Infra can handle that.
> It was working for a very long time and I suddenly these burst of duplicates, 
> as Aditya found, don't you?

Asking people to use “Reply to list” would be acceptable if we were
assuming that everybody participating in the discussion is subscribed to
the mailing-list which is only partially true in our case, given our
current process which consist of accepting email from non-subscribed
users but yelling at them for not not being subscribed.

>> Please configure your email client to add “Reply-to: [email protected]”
>> in the header of the messages you are sending to that list. That will
>> allow other email clients to automatically respect your personnal
>> preferences.
>
> I don't agree, as an ASF member I reply to a lot of MLs. I don't want to be 
> bothered by that for all of them.
> Deepak's answer with INFRA-18478 seems to be the way we should handle that.

I often don't want to cut the grass in my garden, but sometimes I have
too. ;-)

If you have a huge pile of ML subscriptions (50? 100?), you can
configure your email client incrementally each time you send an email to
a list that is not already configured and someday they will eventually
all be properly configured. \o/

Thanks.

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