Tim,
The point is (at least as I have understood) that for public accessible servers
(no problems if you run it locally)
1) If you use a server part of ASF infrasctructure, you can use the Apache OFBiz logo images and you don't need to show a
disclaimer. This is for instance true for the Contegix server we use currently for demos (or at least partially and in process to be
completly true, if I have well followed news) and of course for the Apache server where http://ofbiz.apache.org/ stays.
2) If you don't use a server part of ASF infrasctructure, you cant' use the Apache OFBiz logo images and you need to show a
disclaimer. This is true for alternative demo servers for instance and on mine I have used this policy since Ted Husted's demand.
Hope it clarify things
Jacques
From: "Tim Ruppert" <[email protected]>
Here I put in the information from each of the threads so they could be read easily. The biggest issue I have with this is that
entire idea of the ASF license in general. If anyone can take all of the code that is provided here and go do whatever they want
with it - how can the ASF say that we can't show the logo / assets that we built and donated to the community? That's amazing
that they would even care to tell you the truth.
I more than understand that they would want a disclaimer on stuff that they're not managing - and I'll be the first person to push
that thru - but not being able to show the logo, etc - unless I'm really mistaken - is a bit too far IMO. Anyways looking forward
to more discussion on this. Thanks everyone for humoring me.
Cheers,
Tim
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----- "Tim Ruppert" <[email protected]> wrote:
I totally agree that we need to both:
1. Deal with their demands on the subject
2. Tease out why they are limiting us.
My vote, not that it's binding in any way, is to proceed with #2 while
we come up with something that will work for us on #1. Right now -
having dead links and text jammed into the footer doesn't seem like a
reasonable way forward to me - especially with all the community has
put into making this look more professional. Let's keep pushing this
and figure a proper way forward.
Cheers,
Tim
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----- "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I reverted at Tim's demand (at r766342). Hopefully someone will
come
> with a better way of showing this
>
> The text I propose is
>
> <<This is an important message to remind you that if you make
> available to public a "mirror" of Apache OFBiz web site
>
> (http://ofbiz.apache.org/) or an instance of Apache OFBiz, you
should
> never use the original ofbiz.ico, ofbiz.gif and
>
> ofbiz_logo.jpg files (any version of these files, old or present).
> These are strict ASF proprietary and should never be
>
> used by site publicly available ouf of proper ASF infrastructure
(the
> Contegix servers used by Apache OFBiz for that are
>
> parts of ASF infra).<br>
>
> You must also show a prominent disclaimer that states the site is
not
> associated with the Apache Software Foundation.<br>
>
> Thanks for your attention>>
>
> Maybe some English speaking people (mother tongue) may come with a
> better message also...
>
> Jacques
>
> PS : I think it's our duty to do this to prevent any future
conflicts
> about this subject...
----- "Tim Ruppert" <[email protected]> wrote:
Jacques, as I've said many times on this issue, Contegix is an
approved ASF resource for Maven, so they've already been thru the
hoops in question. That being said, I have no documentation saying
that they are official for OFBiz at this point, so I can understand
this. Not being able to show our own logo on our own demo server that
the ASF cannot support at this point is a total joke and should be
brought up in front of the PRC immediately.
They need to support what we are trying to do with the project
themselves, allow a vendor that they have approved for other projects
be approved for this one, or get the heck out of the way so that we
can help to push the project forward. Let me know how those
conversations go, but consider me very disappointed in this action.
Cheers,
Tim
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----- "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]> wrote:
> HI All,
>
> This is an *important message* to remind you that if you make
> available to public a "mirror" of Apache OFBiz web site
> (http://ofbiz.apache.org/) or an instance of Apache OFBiz, you
should
> never use the original ofbiz.ico, ofbiz.gif and ofbiz_logo.jpg
files
> (any version of these files, old or present). These are strict ASF
> proprietary and should never be used by site publicly available ouf
of
> proper ASF infrastructure (the Contegix servers used by Apache
OFBiz
> for that are parts of ASF infra).
>
> PMC members, I put a message at bottom of site main page, please
check
> and if any problems chime in.
>
> Thanks for your attention
>
> Jacques
