I hear you jacques - it doesn't make it any less ridiculous IMHO if they haven't provided the infra we need so we've got a server, hosted by an approved vendor, where we are making things happen for the project.
Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 ----- Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]> wrote: > Tim, > > The point is (at least as I have understood) that for public accessible > servers (no problems if you run it locally) > 1) If you use a server part of ASF infrasctructure, you can use the Apache > OFBiz logo images and you don't need to show a > disclaimer. This is for instance true for the Contegix server we use > currently for demos (or at least partially and in process to be > completly true, if I have well followed news) and of course for the Apache > server where http://ofbiz.apache.org/ stays. > 2) If you don't use a server part of ASF infrasctructure, you cant' use the > Apache OFBiz logo images and you need to show a > disclaimer. This is true for alternative demo servers for instance and on > mine I have used this policy since Ted Husted's demand. > > Hope it clarify things > > Jacques > > From: "Tim Ruppert" <[email protected]> > > Here I put in the information from each of the threads so they could be > > read easily. The biggest issue I have with this is that > > entire idea of the ASF license in general. If anyone can take all of the > > code that is provided here and go do whatever they want > > with it - how can the ASF say that we can't show the logo / assets that we > > built and donated to the community? That's amazing > > that they would even care to tell you the truth. > > > > I more than understand that they would want a disclaimer on stuff that > > they're not managing - and I'll be the first person to push > > that thru - but not being able to show the logo, etc - unless I'm really > > mistaken - is a bit too far IMO. Anyways looking forward > > to more discussion on this. Thanks everyone for humoring me. > > > > Cheers, > > Tim > > -- > > Tim Ruppert > > HotWax Media > > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com > > > > o:801.649.6594 > > f:801.649.6595 > > > > ----- "Tim Ruppert" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I totally agree that we need to both: > >> > >> 1. Deal with their demands on the subject > >> 2. Tease out why they are limiting us. > >> > >> My vote, not that it's binding in any way, is to proceed with #2 while > >> we come up with something that will work for us on #1. Right now - > >> having dead links and text jammed into the footer doesn't seem like a > >> reasonable way forward to me - especially with all the community has > >> put into making this look more professional. Let's keep pushing this > >> and figure a proper way forward. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Tim > >> -- > >> Tim Ruppert > >> HotWax Media > >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com > >> > >> o:801.649.6594 > >> f:801.649.6595 > >> > >> ----- "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > I reverted at Tim's demand (at r766342). Hopefully someone will > >> come > >> > with a better way of showing this > >> > > >> > The text I propose is > >> > > >> > <<This is an important message to remind you that if you make > >> > available to public a "mirror" of Apache OFBiz web site > >> > > >> > (http://ofbiz.apache.org/) or an instance of Apache OFBiz, you > >> should > >> > never use the original ofbiz.ico, ofbiz.gif and > >> > > >> > ofbiz_logo.jpg files (any version of these files, old or present). > >> > These are strict ASF proprietary and should never be > >> > > >> > used by site publicly available ouf of proper ASF infrastructure > >> (the > >> > Contegix servers used by Apache OFBiz for that are > >> > > >> > parts of ASF infra).<br> > >> > > >> > You must also show a prominent disclaimer that states the site is > >> not > >> > associated with the Apache Software Foundation.<br> > >> > > >> > Thanks for your attention>> > >> > > >> > Maybe some English speaking people (mother tongue) may come with a > >> > better message also... > >> > > >> > Jacques > >> > > >> > PS : I think it's our duty to do this to prevent any future > >> conflicts > >> > about this subject... > > > > ----- "Tim Ruppert" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Jacques, as I've said many times on this issue, Contegix is an > >> approved ASF resource for Maven, so they've already been thru the > >> hoops in question. That being said, I have no documentation saying > >> that they are official for OFBiz at this point, so I can understand > >> this. Not being able to show our own logo on our own demo server that > >> the ASF cannot support at this point is a total joke and should be > >> brought up in front of the PRC immediately. > >> > >> They need to support what we are trying to do with the project > >> themselves, allow a vendor that they have approved for other projects > >> be approved for this one, or get the heck out of the way so that we > >> can help to push the project forward. Let me know how those > >> conversations go, but consider me very disappointed in this action. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Tim > >> -- > >> Tim Ruppert > >> HotWax Media > >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com > >> > >> o:801.649.6594 > >> f:801.649.6595 > >> > >> ----- "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > HI All, > >> > > >> > This is an *important message* to remind you that if you make > >> > available to public a "mirror" of Apache OFBiz web site > >> > (http://ofbiz.apache.org/) or an instance of Apache OFBiz, you > >> should > >> > never use the original ofbiz.ico, ofbiz.gif and ofbiz_logo.jpg > >> files > >> > (any version of these files, old or present). These are strict ASF > >> > proprietary and should never be used by site publicly available ouf > >> of > >> > proper ASF infrastructure (the Contegix servers used by Apache > >> OFBiz > >> > for that are parts of ASF infra). > >> > > >> > PMC members, I put a message at bottom of site main page, please > >> check > >> > and if any problems chime in. > >> > > >> > Thanks for your attention > >> > > >> > Jacques > > > >
