Hi Ron,

Maven and Jcenter are jar repositories. OFBiz components are not jars, so I
am not sure but I think it would not fit, unless perhaps we can jar and
unjar the folder not sure.

On Friday, 22 July 2016, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote:

> For 3rd party libraries, would Maven Central be a good source?
> Everything is there that does not need a license to access
> There is a well defined and well supported service for getting artifacts.
>
> Ron
>
> On 22/07/2016 9:31 AM, Nicolas Malin wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Taher I like you proposal, and I wish to add some complement :)
>>
>> hot-deploy is to manage specific customer site component with the
>> business logic specific to each, Apache OFBiz can help to prepare this but
>> do not more (I will like to have this as best practice)
>>
>> I agree to add a new directory plugins and structure it for the future
>> vision :
>> * add capacity to download a plugin from the asf repo
>> * support extension to download from a third plateform (like the
>> /etc/apt/source.list on debian)
>> * manage namespace and as you said dependencies. Need give some coding
>> contions
>>
>> We can create the plugins directory, and keep specialpurpose on a first
>> step and move step by step each component present.
>>
>> I imagine a process like this :
>> * ./gradlew installPlugin org.apache.ofbiz.framework.birt :
>>  -> check if birt is present on the plugins directory, if not download
>> from
>> svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz-pulgins/branches/relatedRelease/org/apache/ofbiz/framework/birt
>>  -> enable it on component-load
>>  -> compile, load init date and run init service
>>
>> When you run ./gradlew installAllPlugin :
>> * Realize installPlugin on all know plugins, with the official apache
>> ofbiz release, only plugins present on
>> svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz-pulgins/branches/relatedRelease/org/apache/ofbiz/
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> Le 20/07/2016 à 07:29, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Pierre, all,
>>>
>>> I think perhaps my proposal was short and therefore your understanding of
>>> it is a bit different than what I had in mind. So I list below more
>>> specifically what I mean about each point from the ones you mentioned
>>> above
>>> to further fine-tune the discussion.
>>>
>>> - The difference between createComponent and createPlugin is that the
>>> plugin resides in /plugins instead of hot-deploy and added to
>>> component-load.xml and also contains a build.gradle file designed
>>> specifically for plugins. This script contains standard tasks like
>>> install,
>>> uninstall, perhaps even upgrade. The magic work for plugins will be in
>>> their build scripts to integrate tightly with OFBiz.
>>>
>>> - The activate/deactivate tasks are just a little convenience tasks that
>>> add/remove components to the component-load.xml instead of editing it by
>>> hand so it is just using what exists. Gradle completely ignores a
>>> component
>>> if it does not exist in component-load.xml and would not even compile it.
>>> So you can think of this as just providing more ease to the end-user,
>>> similar to your suggestion with the createComponent.
>>>
>>> - The install/uninstall tasks are not just a copy-paste of folders. It
>>> actually executes business logic (optionally) for any plugin author who
>>> wishes to execute it (by calling specific tasks in build.gradle for that
>>> plugin). For example, it might apply patches on some core applications
>>> (and
>>> reverse patches in case of uninstall). Now our standard plugins do not
>>> touch applications or framework, but since we are introducing this
>>> feature
>>> I'm trying to also combine a unified solution for all plugins (Apache
>>> supported and 3rd party). So in one shot we have both ease of use for the
>>> existing components and at the same time a general purpose plugin system.
>>> We might even have a task like say "updatePlugin" in the future and it is
>>> also possible to introduce rudimentary dependency management (Gradle is
>>> really good at this).
>>>
>>> Finally, what to do about specialpurpose is something we should
>>> definitely
>>> tackle, however what I am suggesting right now is some foundational work
>>> that gives you easy choices when you need to make them, and it has the
>>> added bonus of introducing a plugin system for OFBiz which is badly
>>> needed
>>> to protect the core framework and applications and to provide an
>>> eco-system
>>> around it. I'm trying to reach a win-win solution if you will.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 1:18 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Le 19/07/2016 à 22:57, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> the graph needs to be checked/amended to possibly remove components
>>>>> dependencies only introduced by the data model
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I have noticed I have the bad tendency of using the word
>>>> "introduced" instead of "put" or "add" (due to "introduire" false
>>>> friend in
>>>> French) please replace for me when you see it, thanks! :)
>>>> Here the right word would have been "due to" instead of "introduced by"
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> PS: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=introduction
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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