Mentioning in this thread as well (already mentioned) that I removed ofbizSecure and ofbizBackgroundSecure in r1756305 with details in OFBIZ-7951
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > I have no problems reverting start and stop tasks since we will rename the > ofbizDebug and ofbizBackground patterns to debug and background and the > secure patterns will be removed. > > I'll then happily run locally OFBiz using "g o", etc. > > Both are removed at r1756269, with the soon useless debug task > > Jacques > > > Le 13/08/2016 à 11:58, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : > >> I agree Jacopo. Less is more. >> >> This also has to do with the philosophy that simple != easy. These "lazy" >> commands are nice but they have a price as they add to the complexity. Now >> if you change something you need to change other things to keep the system >> functional. You also confuse your users when you have many ways to achieve >> the same result. >> >> I also think we are introducing convenience too early. We just introduced >> gradle recently and we did not even remove all the libs yet nor did we >> introduce a plugin system. It's just way too early to start shoving more >> and more. >> >> Historically OFBiz suffered from being overly complex with a fat code >> base. >> Why? it is exactly because of simple things like this one. Imagine this >> small tangling of code happening thousands of times everywhere in the code >> base, what do you get? you get the complexity we are suffering from right >> now. That is why many times I get very afraid when touching code because I >> just don't know what am I going to break next. >> >> Taher Alkhateeb >> >> On Saturday, 13 August 2016, Jacopo Cappellato < >> jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Jacques Le Roux < >>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com <javascript:;>> wrote: >>> >>> ... >>>> >>> Why? I prefer, it's more intuitive and I feel a continuity with "legacy", >>> >>>> to type start and stop rather than ofbiz and "ofbiz --shutdown" :p >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>> >>> My preference is to design and implement a set of tasks that is as clean, >>> lean and consistent as possible rather than trying to blend the new tasks >>> with the "legacy flavor"; while the "legacy flavor" may initially help >>> old-time adopters already used to the previous style, on the other hand >>> it >>> could increase the initial learning curve for new adopters. >>> >>> Jacopo >>> >>> >
