Thank you Jens. I will look at the above to see what I can contribute without causing additional work for others. :)
Happy New Year to you too!! Carl On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Huesken, Jens <[email protected]> wrote: > Report changed ... and by the way. > > Happy New Year! > Jens > > -----Original Message----- > From: Huesken, Jens [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Donnerstag, 2. Januar 2014 10:31 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [OLINGO] January 2014 Incubator report timeline > > Thanks for all the feedback. > > I will go ahead and change the goals accordingly only mentioning "Grow > Community" as prio 1. > I think we all agree and as we can see from the mailing list documentation > and a second release are already. Having that said this leaves "Grow > Community" as main focus. > > Next time we will first have a discussion on the mailing list and > afterwards push the report into the wiki. > > @Carl: > IMO working on the open issues [1], more documentation [2] and going ahead > with the implementation of the OASIS OData Standard (OData 4.0) should be > in focus. For OData 4.0 the EDM and URI Parsing implementations already > started [3] but there are a lot of new areas to engage like Processor API > Design, JPA Processor for OData 4.0, (De)Serialization of the new JSON > Format and OData 4.0 Client just to name a few. > > Best regards, > Jens. > > [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO > [2]: http://olingo.incubator.apache.org/documentation.html > [3]: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-olingo-odata4.git > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Mosca [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2013 16:08 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OLINGO] January 2014 Incubator report timeline > > In what area(s) is/are contributions needed the most? > > Carl > > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > We don't have to fill all three bullets if we don't have to. IMO, the > > only thing blocking graduation is growing the community. If Olingo had > > more strong contributors I'm sure that documentation and a second release > > would get in the way of graduation. > > > > With that said, we should provide that succinct transparency in our > report > > to the board and only mention growing the community. > > > > BTW, great report! > > > > > > Regards, > > Alan > > > > > > On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi - > > > > > > I think that the goals towards graduation section should be re-ordered. > > > > > >> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: > > >> > > >> 1. Make the second release which addresses most of the Jira Issues > > >> opened since the last release > > >> > > >> 2. Work on documentation > > >> > > >> 3. Grow community > > >> > > > > > > IMHO - The order should be: > > > > > > 1. Grow community. > > > 2. Make a second release. > > > 3. Work on documentation. > > > > > > If the community feels that the second release and documentation will > > increase the chances for growing the community then these are sub-goals. > > The first podling release already satisfies the Apache release > requirement. > > > > > > Does this make sense? > > > > > > Having Francesco joining is already a very good sign of growth! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Dave > > > > > > On Dec 30, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Huesken, Jens wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Francesco, > > >> I like your proposal to send a draft version to dev@ before finally > > submitting it to the wiki. > > >> > > >> @all: > > >> On open point I see is that we should discuss who feels responsible > for > > doing the reports in future. WDYT? > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Jens. > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:[email protected]] > > >> Sent: Montag, 30. Dezember 2013 14:44 > > >> To: [email protected] > > >> Subject: Re: [OLINGO] RE: January 2014 Incubator report timeline > > >> > > >> On 30/12/2013 14:31, Huesken, Jens wrote: > > >>> Hi all, > > >>> since the last three reports for Olingo were done in the same way I > > assumed that writing the report and informing the mailing list is ok for > > everyone. > > >>> The deadline for the report is January 1st, so I propose that > everyone > > who has feedback for the report speaks up before the deadline. > > >>> If there is no feedback I assume that everyone is ok with the report > > (lazy consensus). > > >> > > >> Lazy consensus is generally fine for some aspects, but in case of a > > >> podling that will eventually show it is "ASF-mature" enough for > > >> graduation, I would encourage as much discussion as possible. > > >> > > >> Anyway, I would say that the report you've submitted is just fine and > > >> that we can think to action starting from next report. > > >> > > >>> @Francesco: Thanks for pointing this out. Any proposal how we should > > do that for future reports? How do other projects deal with that? Maybe > you > > have some more experience? > > >> > > >> In Cocoon and Syncope (especially the latter that have gone through > > >> incubation in 2012, so recently enough) usually someone from PMC - > which > > >> is most of time the PMC chair - prepares a draft report and send it > via > > >> e-mail with a subject line like as "[DRAFT] Report Apache XXX January > > >> 2014", leaving some time (usual 72 hours are fine) open for > discussion. > > >> If no one objects, the report is then submitted. > > >> Naturally, discussion can actually modify the text of the report being > > sent. > > >> > > >> Holding such discussion at dev@ will help matching requirements > > >> expressed by [1] and finally speed up the incubation process. > > >> > > >> HTH > > >> Regards. > > >> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:[email protected]] > > >>> Sent: Montag, 30. Dezember 2013 11:26 > > >>> To: [email protected] > > >>> Subject: Re: [OLINGO] RE: January 2014 Incubator report timeline > > >>> > > >>> On 30/12/2013 11:21, Huesken, Jens wrote: > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> the report for Apache Olingo is ready and can be accessed via the > > wiki. > > >>>> > > >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2014 > > >>> Hi all, > > >>> aren't we supposed to discuss and approve the report before (see > [1])? > > >>> > > >>> Regards. > > >>> > > >>> [1] > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#Incubator+ASF+Board+Reports > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Francesco Chicchiriccò > > >> > > >> Tirasa - Open Source Excellence > > >> http://www.tirasa.net/ > > >> > > >> ASF Member, Apache Syncope PMC chair, Apache Cocoon PMC Member > > >> http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Carl J. Mosca > -- Carl J. Mosca
