Hi Maxim, When I started this I didn't think about OpenMeetings whiteboard. It wasn't even whiteboard - it was a tool for ruler-and-compass constructions. I didn't need advanced drawing - only lines and circles. Closure promises to support svg as well as convas and chooses one of them according to browser support - now whiteboard works even at my old Android 2.X with default browser. Also closure has all what I need - a lot of advanced components such as menus, tooltips, color pallet and so on. It has compiling toool which allow to take all required components to one js-file. On the last one motif was - to have more "close knowledge" about closure. :)
Regards, Andrey Bogdanov Среда, 5 июня 2013, 6:14 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>: >Hello Andrey, > >Thanks for the answer! >Could you please describe a bit why have you choose google closure? I had plan >to use http://raphaeljs.com/ . > >Thanks in advance > > >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Bogdanov Andrey < [email protected] > wrote: >> >>I'm sorry but I've possible missed you mail or haven't received it. >> >>For whiteboard I used google closure library. >> >>Regards, >>Andrey Bogdanov >> >> >>Вторник, 4 июня 2013, 22:00 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik < >>[email protected] >: >>>I did wrote letter to Andrey with some questions ... >>>I get no answer :( >>>I would like to know if he uses any JS framework in his work. >>>I believe it is better to rely on framework than to write everything "from >>>scratch" >>> >>> >>>On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Alexei Fedotov < [email protected] >>>>wrote: >>> >>>> Andrey have just said to me that he plans adding mind graphs to his >>>> whiteboard. The main concern is how to coordinate this with Andun. >>>> -- >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>>> http://dataved.ru/ >>>> +7 916 562 8095 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < [email protected] > >>>> wrote: >>>> > I would vote for additional WB tools. >>>> > Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators (like >>>> > currently in dashboard widgets) >>>> > I don't know. >>>> > I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB >>>> > I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we can >>>> > discuss with no rush >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov < >>>> > [email protected] >>>> >wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by default >>>> as >>>> >> well? >>>> >> -- >>>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>>> >> http://dataved.ru/ >>>> >> +7 916 562 8095 >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov < >>>> [email protected] > >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning >>>> >> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat >>>> >> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these >>>> >> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>>> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>>> >> > http://dataved.ru/ >>>> >> > +7 916 562 8095 >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>> [email protected] > >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat >>>> panel >>>> >> >> opened by default" room option. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov < >>>> >> [email protected] >wrote: >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the >>>> >> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some >>>> >> >>> help. >>>> >> >>> -- >>>> >> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>>> >> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>>> >> >>> http://dataved.ru/ >>>> >> >>> +7 916 562 8095 >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>> [email protected] >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>> wrote: >>>> >> >>> > It is only possible for moderator .... >>>> >> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should >>>> >> function >>>> >> >>> :) >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov < >>>> >> [email protected] >>>> >> >>> >wrote: >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does >>>> >> not >>>> >> >>> >> stand, >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface >>>> >> should >>>> >> >>> >> be simplified. >>>> >> >>> >> -- >>>> >> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>>> >> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>>> >> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/ >>>> >> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095 >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>> >> [email protected] > >>>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :( >>>> >> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard >>>> and >>>> >> will >>>> >> >>> >> only >>>> >> >>> >> > be chatting :) >>>> >> >>> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < >>>> >> [email protected] >>>> >> >>> >> >wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as >>>> >> >>> whitebord, >>>> >> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow >>>> >> user to >>>> >> >>> >> close >>>> >> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many >>>> >> variants of >>>> >> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov < [email protected] > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Hello folks, >>>> >> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by >>>> >> default >>>> >> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the >>>> design is >>>> >> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things >>>> relatively >>>> >> >>> simple >>>> >> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they >>>> click >>>> >> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear >>>> on >>>> >> the >>>> >> >>> top >>>> >> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different >>>> from >>>> >> >>> what do >>>> >> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat >>>> >> window >>>> >> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed. >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct? >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical >>>> >> whiteboard >>>> >> >>> to >>>> >> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/ >>>> >> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to >>>> >> implement >>>> >> >>> this >>>> >> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or >>>> >> should >>>> >> >>> we >>>> >> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one? >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > -- >>>> >> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>>> >> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/ >>>> >> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095 >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>> >> >>> >> [email protected] > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > it is nice, >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :( >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov < >>>> >> >>> >> >> [email protected] >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks, >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. >>>> What >>>> >> do >>>> >> >>> you >>>> >> >>> >> >> think? >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything >>>> >> anyway. >>>> >> >>> The >>>> >> >>> >> >> > picture >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged. >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > -- >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/ >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095 >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > -- >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > WBR >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> > -- >>>> >> >>> >> > WBR >>>> >> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > -- >>>> >> >>> > WBR >>>> >> >>> > Maxim aka solomax >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> -- >>>> >> >> WBR >>>> >> >> Maxim aka solomax >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > WBR >>>> > Maxim aka solomax >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>WBR >>>Maxim aka solomax >>> >> >> >>-- >>Андрей Богданов > > > >-- >WBR >Maxim aka solomax -- Андрей Богданов
