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2013/6/6 Mohammed Subhi Sheikh Quroush <[email protected]> > How can I unsubscribe > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > CC: [email protected] > > Subject: Re[4]: new room design > > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:21:06 +0400 > > > > > > Hi Maxim, > > > > When I started this I didn't think about OpenMeetings whiteboard. It > wasn't even whiteboard - it was a tool for ruler-and-compass constructions. > I didn't need advanced drawing - only lines and circles. > > Closure promises to support svg as well as convas and chooses one of > them according to browser support - now whiteboard works even at my old > Android 2.X with default browser. > > Also closure has all what I need - a lot of advanced components such as > menus, tooltips, color pallet and so on. It has compiling toool which allow > to take all required components to one js-file. > > On the last one motif was - to have more "close knowledge" about > closure. :) > > > > Regards, > > Andrey Bogdanov > > > > > > > > Среда, 5 июня 2013, 6:14 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik < > [email protected]>: > > >Hello Andrey, > > > > > >Thanks for the answer! > > >Could you please describe a bit why have you choose google closure? I > had plan to use http://raphaeljs.com/ . > > > > > >Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Bogdanov Andrey < [email protected] > > wrote: > > >> > > >>I'm sorry but I've possible missed you mail or haven't received it. > > >> > > >>For whiteboard I used google closure library. > > >> > > >>Regards, > > >>Andrey Bogdanov > > >> > > >> > > >>Вторник, 4 июня 2013, 22:00 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik < > [email protected] >: > > >>>I did wrote letter to Andrey with some questions ... > > >>>I get no answer :( > > >>>I would like to know if he uses any JS framework in his work. > > >>>I believe it is better to rely on framework than to write everything > "from > > >>>scratch" > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > [email protected] >wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Andrey have just said to me that he plans adding mind graphs to his > > >>>> whiteboard. The main concern is how to coordinate this with Andun. > > >>>> -- > > >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >>>> http://dataved.ru/ > > >>>> +7 916 562 8095 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < > [email protected] > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > I would vote for additional WB tools. > > >>>> > Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators > (like > > >>>> > currently in dashboard widgets) > > >>>> > I don't know. > > >>>> > I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB > > >>>> > I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we > can > > >>>> > discuss with no rush > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > [email protected] > > >>>> >wrote: > > >>>> > > > >>>> >> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by > default > > >>>> as > > >>>> >> well? > > >>>> >> -- > > >>>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >>>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >>>> >> http://dataved.ru/ > > >>>> >> +7 916 562 8095 > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > > >>>> [email protected] > > > >>>> >> wrote: > > >>>> >> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For > returning > > >>>> >> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open. > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to > the chat > > >>>> >> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has > these > > >>>> >> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen. > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during > conferences? > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > -- > > >>>> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >>>> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >>>> >> > http://dataved.ru/ > > >>>> >> > +7 916 562 8095 > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < > > >>>> [email protected] > > > >>>> >> wrote: > > >>>> >> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using > "Chat > > >>>> panel > > >>>> >> >> opened by default" room option. > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > > >>>> >> [email protected] >wrote: > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at > the > > >>>> >> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can > get some > > >>>> >> >>> help. > > >>>> >> >>> -- > > >>>> >> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >>>> >> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >>>> >> >>> http://dataved.ru/ > > >>>> >> >>> +7 916 562 8095 > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> wrote: > > >>>> >> >>> > It is only possible for moderator .... > > >>>> >> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it > should > > >>>> >> function > > >>>> >> >>> :) > > >>>> >> >>> > > > >>>> >> >>> > > > >>>> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > > >>>> >> [email protected] > > >>>> >> >>> >wrote: > > >>>> >> >>> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the > argument does > > >>>> >> not > > >>>> >> >>> >> stand, > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that > interface > > >>>> >> should > > >>>> >> >>> >> be simplified. > > >>>> >> >>> >> -- > > >>>> >> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >>>> >> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >>>> >> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/ > > >>>> >> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095 > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < > > >>>> >> [email protected] > > > >>>> >> >>> >> wrote: > > >>>> >> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :( > > >>>> >> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the > whiteboard > > >>>> and > > >>>> >> will > > >>>> >> >>> >> only > > >>>> >> >>> >> > be chatting :) > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > > >>>> >> [email protected] > > >>>> >> >>> >> >wrote: > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei, > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements > (such as > > >>>> >> >>> whitebord, > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse > and allow > > >>>> >> user to > > >>>> >> >>> >> close > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements > many > > >>>> >> variants of > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by > plugins. > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov < [email protected] > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Hello folks, > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room > screen by > > >>>> >> default > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the > > >>>> design is > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things > > >>>> relatively > > >>>> >> >>> simple > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, > they > > >>>> click > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may > appear > > >>>> on > > >>>> >> the > > >>>> >> >>> top > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely > different > > >>>> from > > >>>> >> >>> what do > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have > a chat > > >>>> >> window > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed. > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct? > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for > mathematical > > >>>> >> whiteboard > > >>>> >> >>> to > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/ > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth > to > > >>>> >> implement > > >>>> >> >>> this > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate > whiteboard", or > > >>>> >> should > > >>>> >> >>> we > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one? > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > -- > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/ > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095 > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < > > >>>> >> >>> >> [email protected] > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > wrote: > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > it is nice, > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard > :( > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> [email protected] > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >wrote: > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks, > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room > design. > > >>>> What > > >>>> >> do > > >>>> >> >>> you > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> think? > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter > anything > > >>>> >> anyway. > > >>>> >> >>> The > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > picture > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged. > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > >>>> > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > -- > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/ > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095 > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > -- > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > WBR > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > > >>>> >> >>> >> > -- > > >>>> >> >>> >> > WBR > > >>>> >> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax > > >>>> >> >>> >> > > >>>> >> >>> > > > >>>> >> >>> > > > >>>> >> >>> > > > >>>> >> >>> > -- > > >>>> >> >>> > WBR > > >>>> >> >>> > Maxim aka solomax > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> -- > > >>>> >> >> WBR > > >>>> >> >> Maxim aka solomax > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > -- > > >>>> > WBR > > >>>> > Maxim aka solomax > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>-- > > >>>WBR > > >>>Maxim aka solomax > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>Андрей Богданов > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >WBR > > >Maxim aka solomax > > > > > > -- > > Андрей Богданов > >
