Alexei, we shouldn't worry about sip integeration in our releases until red5sip is not an Openmeetings part. For example, let's imagine if Linux developers say: "We can't release new kernel because OpenOffice has various document rendering bugs". And Adobe Flash is not good example because Openmeetings uses flash, but red5sip uses Openmeetings to provide voip integration; all sip audio/video troubles are not cause of Openmeetings bugs.
2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > I'm constantly getting enlightened by many people that red4sip is not > a part of Openmeetings. I'm well aware of that fact. :-) Adobe Flash > is not a part of Openmeetings as well, and cause us the problems > anyway. > > If you program does not run on Linux, release notes should say, "does > not run on Linux". IMHO, it's important to reference ecosystem > requirements in release notes. > > > -- > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > http://dataved.ru/ > +7 916 562 8095 > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov > <[email protected]> wrote: > > The previous release was an important step for us, we graduated. Right > > now we should restore original "release" meaning by establishing the > > quality. There are two steps in establishing the quality. > > > > 1. Define the quality. Vasily did a good job here. > > 2. Improving the quality. Here we can improve more. > > > > I want release notes being correct and agreed with participants. > > Taking Artyom comment into account, I wrote the following attempt of > > release notes. > > > > The following no longer works with Openmeetings 2.1.1 (for 1 hour long > > conferences) > > * Recordigs > > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to 11.5 version) > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in > > different browsers or tabs) > > * Video/audio SIP integration (because it requires another program we > > don't want to mention anymore) > > > > Vasily, could you please help adding bug numbers to each line of the > notes? > > The last item intentionally has a weird explanation, but that's what I > > get from Artyom's letter. Artyom, could you please correct the last > > item in a way you think correctly reflects the state of SIP > > integration? > > > > I think we can ship release with reflected problems, this may help > > users not to seek things they won't get. With these release notes > > (improved with bug references and corrections) the release gets my +1. > > > > -- > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > http://dataved.ru/ > > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM, [email protected] > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think Artyom is right. Red5Sip is not the scope of the OpenMeetings > >> project. > >> Me might discuss on how we can make it the scope, if we are able to > create > >> an Incubator project around Red5Sip. > >> > >> I think for the end user this discussion (scope or not) is a rather > >> esoteric discussion as they are simply interested in a working product. > >> > >> However for the release, Artyom & Alexei, you are both PMC members, have > >> you an opinion about the 2.1.1 release? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Sebastian > >> > >> > >> 2013/6/24 Artyom Horuzhenko <[email protected]> > >> > >>> Hello Alexei, > >>> > >>> I've just changed sip integration instruction a little by adding > denoise > >>> and dsp_drop_silence attributes and removed silent detection in red5sip > >>> because there were some problems with it. I think we shouldn't include > any > >>> information about red5sip improvement into Openmeetings release notes > >>> because red5sip is another application. > >>> > >>> > >>> 2013/6/23 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >>> > >>> > Sebastian, I have tested audio SIP integration by using SIP bridge > for > >>> > my own conferences. As a result, Artyom found out that disabling > >>> > jitter-buffer in the Asterisk configuration improves audio. Artyom, > >>> > where one can find your findings on the Apache web site? Does it > worth > >>> > reflecting this in release notes? > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >>> > http://dataved.ru/ > >>> > +7 916 562 8095 > >>> > > >>> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >>> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >>> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:09 AM, [email protected] > >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > We have 3 +1 votes from PMCs. So in theory it is possible. > >>> > > > >>> > > However it would be good if there is some more feedback in the > >>> community > >>> > > about that release. > >>> > > > >>> > > Anybody else has been testing this release? > >>> > > > >>> > > Sebastian > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > 2013/6/22 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > >>> > > > >>> > >> I believe we should release rc1. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> @Sebastian can you publish and announce the release? > >>> > >> > >>> > >> BTW I did paragliding from ~2300 meters in Turkey with instructor > and > >>> > sky > >>> > >> acrobatics :) it was really amazing! :) > >>> > >> On Jun 22, 2013 3:36 AM, "[email protected]" < > >>> [email protected] > >>> > > > >>> > >> wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > I could only find one minor issue: > >>> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-681 > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > I think that is still good to go out as a release. > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > +1 > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > Sebastian > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > 2013/6/22 [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > I am sorry for the delay. > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > The vote is now actually outdated. > >>> > >> > > Shall we restart the vote process for 2.1.1 ? > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > Sebastian > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > 2013/6/10 [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > Release vote happens on dev list, never on private. Please > vote on > >>> > dev, > >>> > >> > as > >>> > >> > >> the link to the dev list will be what we publish as a result > of > >>> the > >>> > >> > vote. > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> I am sorry but I can't test before next week as I don't have > a > >>> > >> Internet > >>> > >> > >> connection good enough while I travel abroad. > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> Thanks, > >>> > >> > >> Sebastian > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> 2013/6/8 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Dear OpenMeetings Community, > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> I would like to start a vote about releasing Apache > OpenMeetings > >>> > >> 2.1.1 > >>> > >> > >>> RC1 > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> Main changes are covered in the > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> Readme: > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/README > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> Full Changelog: > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/CHANGELOG > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> Release artifacts: > >>> > >> > >>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/ > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> Tag: > >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/ > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> PGP release keys (signed using > >>> > >> > >>> C467526E): > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/KEYS > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +1 approve > >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +0 no opinion > >>> > >> > >>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> My vote is +1. > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> -- > >>> > >> > >>> WBR > >>> > >> > >>> Maxim aka solomax > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >>> > >> > >> Sebastian Wagner > >>> > >> > >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >>> > >> > >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >>> > >> > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >>> > >> > >> [email protected] > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > -- > >>> > >> > > Sebastian Wagner > >>> > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >>> > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >>> > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >>> > >> > > [email protected] > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > -- > >>> > >> > Sebastian Wagner > >>> > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >>> > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > >>> > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >>> > >> > [email protected] > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > -- > >>> > > Sebastian Wagner > >>> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >>> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >>> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >>> > > [email protected] > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sebastian Wagner > >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> [email protected] >
