+1 Rungs Richard
On 2026/09/01 06:34:13 Martin Wiesner wrote: > Hi all, > > In general, I’m +1 for this move. However, I’m a bit hesitant towards doing > it "asap“-ish. > > As you might remember, we have a 3.x roadmap that tells us, M6 is to be > expected around Sept 18 - which is pretty soon. > Therefore, I’d like to process the upcoming 3.0.0-M6 in the classic > JIRA-driven approach. > After we climbed this load-bearing rung, we can hopefully convince INFRA to > make the switch for us. > Hopefully, the process of releasing a 3.0.0 (GA) is easier afterwards. > > I hope you understand my point and have some patience in sending this mail > /ticket to INFRA. > > Best > Martin > > > Am 30.08.2026 um 19:36 schrieb Richard Zowalla <[email protected]>: > > > > I am still +1 for It (similar to March). > > > > Let’s wait 72 if anyone objects with a reason otherwise we assume lazy > > consensus and proceed with the INFRA ticket. > > > > =========== > > > > INFRA > > > > After a discussion on our dev thread the OPENNLP project would like to > > proceed with the migration from Jira to GitHub Issues. > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/gk5rgsf19qrzq1732zo2d5mtg3lthj1t > > > > Please let us know if you need anything else or if a PMC member needs to > > comment on this issue too. > > > > Thanks, > > > > kristian > > > > =========== > > > > Cheers > > Richard > > > >> Am 30.08.2026 um 10:55 schrieb Kristian Rickert <[email protected]>: > >> > >> I'd love to proceed with this too and do it sooner rather than later. So > >> I'll offer up to create the INFRA ticket to start this procedure. > >> > >> Pending any objections here's what I'd send in the ticket: > >> > >> =========== > >> > >> INFRA - > >> > >> After a discussion on our dev thread the OPENNLP team would like to > >> proceed with the migration from Apache to github for issues. > >> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/gk5rgsf19qrzq1732zo2d5mtg3lthj1t > >> > >> Please let us know if you need anything else. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> kristian > >> > >> =========== > >> > >> Once created, A PMC member will reply that it is fine to do and than you > >> can just reference the thread in the ticket. > >> > >> Any objections? > >> > >> On 2026/03/28 09:45:10 Richard Zowalla wrote: > >>> HI all, > >>> > >>> Looks like we are in favor of doing so. > >>> Let’s wait until the current releases are out and completed and than I > >>> create an INFRA ticket referencing this thread, so they can do the > >>> migration and get things up. > >>> I think it would be nice to do it before having a 3.0.0 final :) > >>> > >>> Gruß > >>> Richard > >>> > >>>> Am 25.03.2026 um 16:39 schrieb Jeff Zemerick <[email protected]>: > >>>> > >>>> I am +1 on adopting GitHub Issues. I'm not aware of any significant > >>>> difficulties faced by the ASF projects that I have seen use it. I > >>>> think it would make issue tracking a lot easier. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Jeff > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 8:47 AM Martin Wiesner <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi all, > >>>>> > >>>>> I’m also +1 for that "move“. > >>>>> Atl. Jira has it strengths, yet I agree it poses barriers to (new) > >>>>> contributors, as adds in extra complexity for the workflow of bringing > >>>>> in contributions. > >>>>> > >>>>> Given Richard’s experience with the actual migration steps and ASF’s > >>>>> support, I see no reasons why the project shouldn’t try Github as > >>>>> primary platform. > >>>>> I think, we could thus reach a much broader audience. > >>>>> > >>>>> @Richard: Do you think that should be done before a final 3.0.0 is out? > >>>>> > >>>>> Best > >>>>> Martin > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Am 25.03.2026 um 10:04 schrieb Atita Arora <[email protected]>: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for putting this together so clearly, Richard. > >>>>>> I'm in favor of the move and the migration path being well-established > >>>>>> makes this a low-risk change. > >>>>>> The GitHub Discussions idea for the user list is interesting too. Worth > >>>>>> trying! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> +1 from me. > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> Atita > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 9:16 AM Richard Zowalla <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>> I'd like to start a discussion about migrating our issue tracker from > >>>>>>> Jira > >>>>>>> to GitHub Issues, as several other ASF projects have already done > >>>>>>> successfully (Maven, Storm, Arrow, Lucene, and others). > >>>>>>> The main benefits I see: > >>>>>>> Contributors no longer need to create a Jira account to file a bug or > >>>>>>> feature request, which alone can make a noticeable difference in > >>>>>>> participation. GitHub's "good first issue" labelling is widely used > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>> well-known, making it easier to attract new contributors and widen our > >>>>>>> community. > >>>>>>> On top of that, enabling GitHub Discussions could replace our current > >>>>>>> user > >>>>>>> mailing list, which has been fairly quiet for a while. Mailing lists > >>>>>>> are > >>>>>>> showing their age as a communication channel, and many people today > >>>>>>> are > >>>>>>> simply more comfortable engaging in a web-based forum style. GitHub > >>>>>>> Discussions would meet users where they already are, potentially > >>>>>>> breathing > >>>>>>> new life into community interaction around OpenNLP. > >>>>>>> The migration path is well established: INFRA can migrate all > >>>>>>> existing and > >>>>>>> closed Jira issues automatically to GitHub, as has been done for > >>>>>>> Maven, > >>>>>>> Storm, Arrow, Lucene, and others, so we would not lose any history. > >>>>>>> Regarding ASF compliance: archiving requirements are fully covered, as > >>>>>>> everything can be mirrored to the appropriate mailing lists via > >>>>>>> .asf.yml > >>>>>>> One thing worth acknowledging: moving to GitHub Issues does mean > >>>>>>> leaving > >>>>>>> ASF-controlled infrastructure and depending on Microsoft. However, > >>>>>>> given > >>>>>>> that ASF is already planning to migrate Jira to Atlassian Cloud, we > >>>>>>> would > >>>>>>> be leaving ASF's own infra (for issue tracking) either way, so this > >>>>>>> concern > >>>>>>> seems largely moot. > >>>>>>> I'm not aware of any blockers, but I'd love to hear thoughts, > >>>>>>> concerns, or > >>>>>>> prior experiences and start a discussion on it. > >>>>>>> Gruß > >>>>>>> Richard > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > > > >
