Hello; Despite being so subjective, this is an extremely interesting subject.
I went googling around the subject and it is quite important, I mean, there are experts that work on this stuff. For example, these guys will let you obtain a palette from a picture: http://www.degraeve.com/color-palette/index.php The first list of colors used as a basis for WWW standards were actually taken from the X11 palette: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11_color_names If we were to adhere to some standard I guess that would be the starting point. Nevertheless, this is a matter that is far from being standardized. Looking at Symphony: I like the color palette but it still can be improved. If you slide over the colors you can see names and while some are descriptive, most are not (cyan1, cyan 2) There are certainly color professionals out there that have considered this and some colors are popular enough to have a name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors_(compact) I would suggest that we do take initially the Symphony palette but attempt to replace most unnamed colors with something that can be identified by name in either of the lists above. It's a lot of work and I am not volunteering though :(. regards, Pedro. >________________________________ > Da: Armin Le Grand <armin.le.gr...@me.com> >A: dev@openoffice.apache.org >Inviato: Giovedì 20 Dicembre 2012 5:45 >Oggetto: [proposal] Adopt palette to Symphony palette partially > > Hi List, > >Talking about palettes is always difficult - at the end, it's a question of >taste. Nonetheless, we need a palette which is by default installed with the >office. You all know the current one (for years ;-)) which I think is far from >optimal. Thus, I analyzed the current one and want to share my findings. From >that, I want to propose a change for our next release. Also probably not >optimal, but optimal in this field depends on the user's eye and cannot be met >by a single palette anyways. > >Talking about palettes is also difficult since you need to 'see' something - >pictures say more than words. To make that easier, I have prepared some data. >Please look at > >A Impress document containing two slides >(http://people.apache.org/~alg/Palette/palette.odp) >The two slides as png's for convenience >(http://people.apache.org/~alg/Palette/palette.png, >http://people.apache.org/~alg/Palette/palette2.png) > >The following thext refers to figures there, so please take a look to see what >the text is about (...if you want to continue reading ;-)) > >The current (old?) AOO Palette, It's made up of five groups (from my >perspective): > >(a) The 16 VGA colors: These come originally from the times where only 16 >colors were possible and are in hex color notation exactly all eight >combinations of red/green/blue on or off, plus these in half intensity. It >*had* technical reasons, but these colors do not have any special meaning for >the user today (well, for the programmer). Anyways, they are a result of old >technical limitations. I think they are ugly and lead to ugly results when >using them directly (but that's my impression). > >(b) The 'Main' Colors: 56 colors which try to build up to eight >gradient-stepped ranges, e.g. orange. These ranges are *not* equidistantly >spread, but somewhat wild/random (see e.g. the reds). I do not know where they >historically come from, but I guess they were done by a deveoper at these >days. There are some nice colors among them, but not too many. I always search >for useful colors there > >(c) The Pale colors: These seem to be younger than the others, may have to do >historically with the StarOffice 5.2 color theme, but I'm not sure. Not too >bad, not too good a selection. A group of seven colors which form a nice kind >of 'schema' and make your presentation look 'acceptable' when using them >together. > >(d) The Chart colors: 12 colors used in the new chart module written some >years ago. AFAIK these were added at that time especially to support the user >having colors at hand corresponding to the default chart colors. Nice. Useful. > >(e) 'Nice' Colors: A sub-group from (b). One is fix, it's the mentioned 'Blue >9' which is currently the default color for objects and has to be in the >palette. I personally like (and often use) 'Blue Gray'. These are a question >of taste, I would reccomend the named ones, but we need to collect 'your' >favorites here. Keep in mind to keep this number low (probably 4-5) and do not >forget that the color you like were not choosen freely, but *because* you were >limited to the offered ones, so it might be a compromize you are just used to. > >Quite a mix. I compared it with Syphony's palette and there completely new >colors are used. One interesting aspect are the white/gray/black ones: In our >current palette these are divided between (a) (black, white and two grays) and >(b) (the rest, gray 80% .. gray 20%). This is of course because the first four >grays are technically in the old VGA palette. I more than once were mad about >finding the correct gray in our palette, because of the bad positioning in it. >Symphony has all needed grays in one draw as first entries in the palette >(what I would expect nowadays). > >Thus, I propose: >- Basically use Symphony palette >- Preserve some nice olors from our old palette, but not more than 4 or 5. The >default color needs to be preserved (blue 9). I propose to only keep 'Blue >Gray', but let's see which other colors are favorites here... >- Add the Pale colors >- Add the Chart colors > >The result is 'hand crafted' in the docs linked above, please have a look :-) > >Another aspect of the new palette is that it copies from Symphony the use of >'12-er groups' which look nice when you order the palette in a way that 12 >colors are in a row, please see the picture. This could be a part of our >sidepane in progress. > >One more hint: This palette offers defaults to the user after AOO is newly >installed, not more (and not less). It can be changed by the user anytime. >Colors can be added/deleted by the user. This has no technical limitations in >the sense that changing the palette may influence existing ODF's or other >written files. E.g. the chart colors are there to not have to look for them, >but can be added/removed by the user anytime (they are *not* the source for >the chart to use them). > >Lot of text for some colors. So, tell me what you think about this proposed >new palette! > >Sincerely, > Armin >-- >ALG > > >
