On 5/7/13 9:14 AM, janI wrote: > Hi > > I have now read this thread twice, and see a to me well known pattern. > > @pedro, I do agree with rob, that you might have choosen your comment more > wisely, that said you are the expert on the subject, so if you change the > status to "WONTFIX" it is a complely correct action. The issue is still > seachable in the database, but you signal to everybody this will not be > fixed (some day in future, somebody might solve a similar issue). I do > exactly the same with the fields (mwiki) where I feel confident, and only > asks for others opinion if I am in doubt. > > I hope you will reconsider, this list and community is not (yet) completely > dominated by the opinion of any single person, but if everybody withdraws > when being lectured, it soon will be. We badly need motivated, critical > members. > > @rob, please dont misunderstand me, I respect you for the awfull amount of > positive work you do for AOO, but I hope you will consider (no need to > reply to my mail just in private), which of the following 2 options you > think are the better option for our community: > > a) we allow bullying/lecturing our fellow committers, causing the committer > to withdraw and the community in praxis looses a motivated committer. > > b) we accept the expert choise of our fellow committers, even though we > personally might not agree, and keep a motivated committer that works > actively. > > I have no doubt that I prefer b), it really doesnt matter if a database > field is set to WONTFIX, it stayes searchable, compared to having somone > actively working on making AOO a better product and community. > > During my time in AOO, we have added 3 committers and by using a) and 2 > have at least reduced their work heavely. > > I do believe we all try to do our best in our own way, but lets please use > the energy to make a better product, not to fight each other. > > this just being my 2cent. > > Jan I. >
I agree to you in general but first of all we should not act like prima donnas. Rob started the thread with the completely wrong wording. Where he was not wrong in general and I would tend to agree that such comments and the state of the issue are confusing. Pedro who signaled first that he is not subscribed to the list (normally I would ignore a committer who is not subscribed) answered in a way that it was clear too most of the readers where this thread will end :-( Two strong characters, two person who have never met in person, two individuals who both want to bring the project forward. But also two person where obviously some conflict potential is in between for whatever reason. Regarding the state of this issue and the fact that it is still in the database. This is only a theoretical fact and the issue if once marked as won't fix will never ever be noticed in the huge amount of open issues. We should be of course careful and if we change the state we should give at least a more descriptive comment. I wish that people calm down a little bit and take things not too personal. We should all think first and should filter posts in some way to extract the real facts. We can and should give always advice and hints if we think that something goes wrong or can be done better. But let us do this in a way that is less offensive and more friendly. Juergen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
