On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/13 9:24 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 5/9/13 9:11 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 02:11:31PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>> It can still have some meaning: suppose someone in the
>>>>> ecosystem is building custom versions of AOO for their
>>>>> customers, they may want to configure with --with-vendor; they
>>>>> can even change the images in the dialog to whatever suits them
>>>>> (anyone can try this by changing the PNGs in the folder where
>>>>> the main executable file resides, about.png is the header of
>>>>> the dialog, logo.png is the main logo at the left), for
>>>>> example:
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialogCustomImg.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>
>> I can certainly see it being useful for someone else who builds a
>>>> customized version of AOO.  But that's not us.  We're not *based
>>>> on* Apache OpenOffice.  We *are* Apache OpenOffice.  This is
>>>> confusing. Remember, we're trying to educate users to download
>>>> safely, and use trusted downloads that continue Apache
>>>> OpenOffice.  So saying that we're "based on" OpenOffice is
>>>> weird.
>>>
>>> That resource string can be split in several parts, and have two
>>> versions for that particular one:
>>>
>>> "This product was created by %OOOVENDOR, based on Apache
>>> OpenOffice.\n" used if -DOOO_VENDOR is passed to the compiler
>>>
>>> "This product was created by %OOOVENDOR" used if -DOOO_VENDOR is
>>> not passed.
>>>
>>> %OOOVENDOR is still needed as it makes branding "easier".
>>>
>>>
>>> Another thing to think about, is taking out of the string the parts
>>> that don't need translation. For example, in
>>>
>>> "Copyright © 2012 Apache Software Foundation.\n"
>>>
>>> In some languages, they have translated "Software Foundation", in
>>> others not; in some they have translated "Copyright", in others
>>> not. We can state clearly what is supposed to be translated and
>>> what not. vid.
>>> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=ABOUT_STR_COPYRIGHT&defs=&refs=&path=extras%2Fl10n%2Fsource%2F&hist=&project=aoo-AOO34
>>>
>>>
>> that make a lot of sense and I agree that we should change the About
>> dialog.
>>
>> Ariel created a further issue regarding the README and this changes
>> make sense as well.
>>
>> I will trigger a (hopefully last) minor translation update for both
>> changes when the fixes are in place.
>>
>> It's probably also a good idea to collect all this release relevant
>> items that have to be checked for every relase. An up-to-date README
>> is useful for the interested user. Or we move every changing content
>> out of the file and on a easy to change webpage where we have more
>> flexibility.
>>
>
> I worked on this and split the string in several parts and insert some
> dependencies. See also the comments in the issue that I won't repeat all
> here.
>
> The main Copyright string will not be translated (the green marked
> string in the screenshots).
>
> We will have now 2 versions
>
> 1. default version if vendor is "Apache Software Foundation"
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/About_default.png
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> 2. if the vendor is somebody else
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/About_vendor.png
>
> The wording can still be tuned and I am open to any suggestions until
> Tuesday.
>
> The copyright year is fixed for our default (at the moment 2013) and
> will set at build time when the vendor changed. This will probably
> changed in the future and the date will move into the openoffice.lst
>

Would it be possible to have some space between each paragraph, e.g.,
a blank line before "The OpenOffice community acknowledges..."

-Rob

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