On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
> Putting on my Apache Member Hat. I do have an issue with skipping a re-vote.
>

OK.  I did say, "If there are no objections..".   It sounds like there
are some concerns, so let's just run the full ceremony run through.

It may be possible to wrap the voting up by the end of the week, but
it will be better (for press coverage) to have the announcement occur
next Monday than at the end of the week.  If we aim for Monday that,
hopefully, will give everyone ample time for the vote as well as
post-vote activities.

Regards,

-Rob


> PMC members are checking signatures and checksums? And we are verifying that 
> the source tag matches the RC for source? These are guaranteed to change with 
> the re-spin.
>
> Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a REQUIRED 
> part of the Foundation's process.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jürgen,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
>>>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
>>>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
>>>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
>>>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
>>>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
>>>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
>>>>> while working with AOO 4.
>>>>
>>>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a
>>> crash.
>>>>
>>>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
>>>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
>>>>
>>>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you
>>>> have any special hardware?
>>>
>>> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
>>> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
>>> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
>>>
>>
>> I don't have an issue with NOT re-voting. This is after all, ONE
>> (significant) bug fix as opposed to the integrity of the whole product.
>> Will changed source with one date be a problem with existing sig files?
>> That's my only concern.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
>>> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
>>> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
>>> of course important ;-)
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
>>> pm (UTC +2).
>>>
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>>>> On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened
>>>>>>>>> a new
>>>>>>>>> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to
>>>>>>>>> not be
>>>>>>>>> affected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
>>>>>>>>> reproduce.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
>>>>>>>> Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
>>>>>>>> Samer saw it on an upgrade install.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
>>>>>>>> machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
>>>>>>>> It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
>>>>>>>> Samer on whether it worked for him.
>>>>>>> If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to
>>> know
>>>>>>> whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
>>>>>>> solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To test it please
>>>>>>> - download the DLL
>>>>>>> - copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this
>>> will
>>>>>>> be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
>>>>>>> - if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then
>>>>>>> please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
>>>>>>> - run your tests again that used to crash it
>>>>>> nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that
>>>>>> Herbert's fix is solving the problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is
>>>>>> save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
>>>>>> problem partly before he used the patched library.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is
>>>>>> our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2
>>>>>> hours longer to receive potentially more feedback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Herbert
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