On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote:
> On 8/12/13, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> > >> wrote: > >> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> > >> wrote: > >> >> > I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there > has > >> been > >> >> > some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of > >> clean up > >> >> > work to be done. > >> >> > > >> >> > For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the > >> >> > AOOLogos > >> >> > folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to > >> >> > identify > >> it > >> >> > between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is > selected, > >> the > >> >> > current name is unecessary long. > >> >> > > >> >> > Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png< > >> >> > >> > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Right. That work is incomplete. I checked it in originally, after > >> >> the logo vote, so we could start working on the product integration > >> >> immediately. But note that the above logo is not the one we actually > >> >> used in AOO 4.0 !! > >> >> > >> >> The one we actually used is this one: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_Inkscape_kg.svg > >> >> > >> >> This was Chris R's contest logo with some minor technical changes. > >> >> Kevin G. used this and generated the PNG/JPG files for AOO 4.0, which > >> >> I helped check in. > >> >> > >> >> My intent was to take that SVG and rename it to "master-logo-40.svg" > >> >> > >> > > >> > Again I think we do need a convention for a "logo.svg" as opposed to > >> > ending with a logo-30.svg logo-40.svg logo-50.svg. An just > >> > incrementally > >> > replace with the future logos as we update the SVG. > >> > > >> > >> Here's the complication: The old logos are still relevant some some > >> purposes. For example, the PMC receives ongoing requests to approve > >> use of the old OpenOffice.org logo. Why would that happen? Often it > >> is a request by publishers who are making an e-book version of an > >> older print book. If their original request did not include the > >> e-book rights then they come back to us (and owners of every other > >> image they use) to request additional permissions. > >> > >> So it may be possible, going forward, to store logos as SVN revisions > >> under the same name. But we cannot retroactively do this with > >> pre-Apache logos. And even if we could, this is harder for users of > >> the logo to access. It is much easier to have something like > >> logo-330.svg available via HTTP. > >> > >> Of course you can have a hybrid approach: > >> > >> 1) When a new logo is introduced, svn copy the old one into a > >> /old-logos directory with a new descriptive name. This preserves the > >> version history. > >> > >> 2) New logo then is checked in as a new revision of logo-master.svg. > >> > > > > I like this idea or something akin to it. We should definitely preserve > > svgs for old logos in my opinion. The new "branding" repository can be > > Why are you multiplicating image repositories, where Art already has > one with the whole image structure clasified and versioned? > I'm putting the sources into the "branding source" area, We had already discussed this. Soon we will probably discuss deleting them *from* the marketing/art area. The biggest problem right now is actually FINDING all these. For now, there will be some duplications. Apache OpenOffice does not have the same structure as the old OpenOffice.org with defined project areas, project area leaders, project area committers etc. So setting up the separate branding area was discussed and these files are now being put there. > > > used for this, and given some additional structure. I'm also finding > some > > svg masters for items that are not really logos, like "Get It Here", that > > probably need to be moved to "branding" even though they are not really > > logos. > > > > And, because there are quite a few sites using old logo versions, I don't > > really think we should track them all down and require them to upgrade. > > > > Again, I am only referring to svg for these. Renderings, png files, as > far > > as I'm concerned, can be renamed and kept anywhere. The new logo used on > > the website now, for example, is not a drop in replacement for the old > > one, because the size is slightly larger due to design considerations. > So, > > it's conceivable, depending on use, the even within the Apache OpenOffice > > site, etc., different renderings might be used. But maybe this is in > > opposition to what marketing folks mean by a "logo" with a specific size, > > etc., I don't know. > > > > > > > >> Regards, > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >> or something clean like that. However, I have not had any luck > >> >> getting this logo to load into Inkscape or Adobe Illustrator. I get > >> >> errors. And I have not had any luck getting Kevin to send a version > >> >> that will load. > >> >> > >> >> So we're stuck right now with a logo that does load into Inkscape, > but > >> >> is slightly different than the one we used in AOO 4.0. > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think > >> >> > the > >> >> > webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the > >> >> > files > >> >> are > >> >> > updated without having different versions laying arround. Over this > >> >> > example, ooo-logo.png and > >> >> > AOO4_website_logo.png< > >> >> > >> > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log > >> >> >exist. > >> >> > > >> >> > All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become > >> >> > incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as > >> >> author, > >> >> > version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the > >> >> > filename. Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the > >> image, > >> >> > since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and > >> >> > finally > >> if > >> >> > there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> A more logical naming scheme would be good, I agree. But this has > >> >> been waiting for resolution of which SVG we should actually be using. > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> > >> >> -Rob > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > If you want to review the images please go here: > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Alexandro Colorado > >> >> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >> >> > http://www.openoffice.org > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Alexandro Colorado > >> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >> > http://www.openoffice.org > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MzK > > > > Success is falling nine times and getting up ten." > > -- Jon Bon Jovi > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten." -- Jon Bon Jovi
