2013/8/20 Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > 2013/8/19 Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> > > > >> On 8/19/13 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >> >> (top posting) > >> >> > >> >> User SLV-es from ES forums proposed a new logo > >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/download/file.php?id=3924&mode=view > >> >> > >> > > >> > Why aren't we just using the proper AOO logo, the same one we use on > >> > the website, the blog, the wiki, etc.? If we can do that then the > >> > user will understand that this is an official website. Consistency is > >> > good for this. And then you can have a text title that says > >> > "Community Support Forum" or something like that. > >> > >> exactly I do not understand either this discussion, why not using the > >> new existing one. Maybe tweaked to fit in the forum header > >> > > > > > > Note that I'm not in favour of using a different logo on forums, but that > > I'm not particularly in favour of using the same either. I think there > is a > > difference between "consistent branding" and "plain homogeneity" and that > > there is room for small changes without loosing the "branding" > (underlining > > _small_). > > > > IMO, the discussion about the forum logo have two background points. The > > first one is historical: forums used a custom logo since the beginning. > > This is not bad for itself... nor good: it's just a fact. > > > > The second point is more "technical": with the blue background the > official > > logo will be lost. There are two ways of solving this, a change on forum > > header background or a custom logo: the solution used up to now. > > > > I'd consider the header as a whole to be the topic of discussion. > This consists of a background color, graphical elements and text. I'd > much prefer for the AOO logo to be used in the original form. If left > aligned this gives a lot of space in the header to do other things. > For example, if we want that lifesaver graphic, maybe that could be > the three o's in Community Support Forum? Or it could be a graphic > right aligned? >
Not bat. Maybe the lifesaver with the text "community forum" to the right. That add the problem of positioning the search box, though. > > But I think we want to use the AOO logo prominently, to reenforce in > the mind of the user that they are on an official website. As you > know there are so many potentially damaging websites out there > pretending to be OpenOffice websites. We need to train our users to > understand when they are on an official website. The branding is a > key part of this. > Sounds reasonable for me. Regards Ricardo > > Regards, > > -Rob > > > > User SLV-es created a new proposal (uploaded on the issue): > > > > http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/download/file.php?id=3926&mode=view > > > > Basically, it's the official logo with the addition of the lifesaver to > > emphasise the idea of "help". I find the concept nice, but that's just > me ;) > > > > Regards > > Ricardo > > > > > > > > > >> > >> Juergen > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -Rob > >> > > >> > > >> >> On his own words, it needs some work but IMO it shows an interesting > >> tweak, > >> >> maintaining both, colours and fonts from original logo but with a > >> variant > >> >> that suggest "help" (the main forum purpose). > >> >> > >> >> I suggested the author to attach his proposal to the issue. > >> >> > >> >> Regards > >> >> Ricardo > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 2013/8/12 Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> > >> >> > >> >>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Berlasso < > rgb.m...@gmail.com> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>> 2013/8/11 Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org > > > >> >>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> There is also other sites like extensions, www and > >> >>>>>> openoffice.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>> , > >> >>>>>>>>> blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites > need > >> >>> to be > >> >>>>>>>>> updated. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there > >> >>> was a > >> >>>>>>>>> dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there > >> >>> needs to > >> >>>>>> be > >> >>>>>>>>> some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> So the status is: > >> >>>>>>>>> blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo > >> >>>>>>>>> templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or > >> don't > >> >>>>> have > >> >>>>>>>> the > >> >>>>>>>>> previous logo at all. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a > >> >>> similar > >> >>>>>> font > >> >>>>>>>>> to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls > >> artwork. > >> >>>>>> Andrea > >> >>>>>>>>> recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb. > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Why would you change the font? And what did you change it too? > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998#c0 > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> The bugzilla does not answer my question. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> You used two fonts what are they and what is the license? > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> IIRC open sans is Apache licensed. Why change? > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> I think you missread, they were change into Sans Pro. Please look > at > >> the > >> >>>>> source SVG for 1 to 1 comparison from legacy to new one based on > the > >> >>>>> current AOO Logo. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Adobe's Source Sans Pro font is OLF licensed while, as Dave said, > open > >> >>> sans > >> >>>> is Apache Licensed. IMO, if you changed from open sans to source > sans > >> pro > >> >>>> then Dave's question is perfectly valid. > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> So we're all on the same page: the AOO 4.0 Logo uses Source Sans > Pro. > >> >>> This must not be changed without discussion and PMC approval. If > the > >> >>> idea is to update the old forum/wiki headers to use Source Sans Pro > >> >>> and new logo elements, then this sounds like the right direction. > >> >>> > >> >>> -Rob > >> >>> > >> >>>> Regard > >> >>>> Ricardo > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all > the > >> >>>>> samples > >> >>>>>>>> and > >> >>>>>>>>> sources. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest < > >> >>>>>> hagar.del...@laposte.net > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> The question was raised in another thread but better have a > >> >>>>> dedicated > >> >>>>>>>> one. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will > >> >>> certainly > >> >>>>>>>> visit 3 > >> >>>>>>>>>> areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. > Today > >> >>> they > >> >>>>>>>> have 3 > >> >>>>>>>>>> different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a > >> consistent > >> >>>>>>>> branding > >> >>>>>>>>>> to give users a kind of security feeling. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 > current > >> >>>>> headers > >> >>>>>>>> and > >> >>>>>>>>>> a proposal I've made very quickly: > >> >>> http://forum.openoffice.org/** > >> >>>>>>>>>> en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=**63523< > >> >>>>>>>> > http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=63523> > >> >>>>>>>>>> No need to register to see it so have a look. > >> >>>>>>>>>> The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) > at > >> >>>>> least > >> >>>>>>>> for > >> >>>>>>>>>> every areas, at the same location. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hagar > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- > >> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.** > apache.org > >> < > >> >>>>>>>> dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> > >> >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado > >> >>>>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >> >>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado > >> >>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >> >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> -- > >> >>>>> Alexandro Colorado > >> >>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >> >>>>> http://www.openoffice.org > >> >>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
