Hi,

Am 11.02.2014 um 00:55 schrieb "Marcus (OOo)" <marcus.m...@wtnet.de>:

> Am 02/10/2014 10:22 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Am 10.02.2014 um 21:46 schrieb "Marcus (OOo)"<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>:
>> 
>>> Am 02/10/2014 08:53 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>   wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Markus,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac
>>>>>>> OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
>>>>>>> Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
>>>>>>> that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
>>>>>> see what will be possible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
>>>>>> identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> @Oliver: Can you help me here, too?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> @Oliver and all Mac users:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've finished a first test. Please have a look:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> After "downgrading" my iMac to 10.6 [1] I got
>>>> 
>>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 for *MacOS X (10.6 or older)* is not available.
>>>> Please choose another platform build from the alternative download
>>>> webpage.<http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/>
>>> 
>>> It seems the order to present the correct text and link inside the green 
>>> box was not correct. Is it now better?
>> 
>> Previously, I did not follow the link and thus, I did not notice that itnwas 
>> the intended one.
>> Text looks better, but the link target would confuse unexperienced user from 
>> my point of view - there too much clicks needed to get to the corresponding 
>> directory containing the packages and then there are too much files with 
>> similar names.
>> Better would be a direct link to the the installation package of the 4.0.1 
>> which would be also available at sourceforge.net as I assume.
> 
> When we can be sure that the previous versions will remain longer on 
> Sourceforge then OK.
> 
> I've implemented a special behaviour for old Mac builds to provide assembled 
> download URLs, so I hope I've covered that part. Please test - and also the 
> linked checksum files.
> 

In my special downgraded OS X the test is ok.
Just one minor issue:
The tooltip for the Release Notes link talks about 4.1.0. The link goes 
correctly to the 4.0.1 Release Notes, only the tooltip is wrong.

In my normal OS X the test is ok, except the link to the Release Notes.


Best regards, Oliver

> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>>> It would be great, if it could be added that 4.0.1 is available for Mac OS
>>>> X 10.6 or older incl. corresponding link.
>>> 
>>> Yes, that was intended.
>>> 
>>>> [1] changing key "ProductVersion" in
>>>> /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist
>>> 
>>> Interesting feature. :-)
>>> 
>>>>> If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
>>> 
>>> Marcus
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> BTW:
>>>>> I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ).
>>>>> Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So,
>>>>> please test also with other old versions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr<hdu_...@alice.de>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to 
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
>>>>>>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>>>>> based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>> look at our progress tracking page [2].
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
>>>>>>>>>>> port
>>>>>>>>>>> becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
>>>>>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>>>>>> with the 10.7 SDK.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  +1 the wiki "build instructions" should also be updated.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.
>>>>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>>>>> only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
>>>>>>>>> protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
>>>>>>>>> Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
>>>>>>>>> happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Good point.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
>>>>>>>> versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and
>>>>>>>> Safari).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the
>>>>>>>> table:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build
>>>>>>>> something around the scripting.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was
>>>>>>>> detected.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marcus

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