Hi Louis,

I am not interested in being interviewed in a podcast, but if you have specific questions, just let me know. Private email to my web.de account, as I don't follow the mails on the AOO/LO lists on a regular base, except for the security lists.

And you are right wrt many early developers working for Open-Xchange now :)

We are 14(!) former colleagues from Sun's OpenOffice.org.team. 12 of them even already worked for StarDivision.

Same focus - Office productivity, ODF and OOXML.

Just different technology - now written for the browser.

Best regards
Malte.



On 27.10.2014 19:57, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
Malte!
So, you do realize this is probably one of the very very few witness
accounts we have of the origins of StarOffice? (later OpenOffice) ... and
if you were to consent to writing more--or being interviewed in a podcast
for more--we, or at least I, would be grateful... and better informed of
that application that has so formed my adult life.

best
louis

On 27 October 2014 14:53, Malte Timmermann <malte_timmerm...@gmx.com> wrote:

Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th
Anniversary.

StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In
Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows.

In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg.
StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. By
completely different people.

When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we
also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting
from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac
version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years went
by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to create native
system widgets for their corresponding components. As this approach lead to
different issues, and not all systems had the same set of widgets, we later
replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today.

First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw developed
outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology stack. Iirc,
StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all components based
on StarView.

The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There
also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 for
DOS (which already was available in version 6 then).

The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice

Just some historical data.... :)

Best regards
Malte.




On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote:

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini
<roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:

2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com>:

  Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the
continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
.

So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.

Any ideas what we might do?

For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
can run the original StarWriter?


I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about
a
StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it?


Cool!

This is from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History

It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was
released in 1985.

No idea where to get the code.   Maybe Juergen or another "old-timer"
would have a clue for us?

-Rob

  Roberto




It looks like some emulators here:

http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32

It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to
release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution
of the UI.

Regards,

-Rob

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