Hi Malte, > On 2014-10 -28, at 04:22, Malte Timmermann <malte_timmerm...@gmx.com> wrote: > > Hi Louis, > > I am not interested in being interviewed in a podcast, but if you have > specific questions, just let me know. Private email to my web.de account, as > I don't follow the mails on the AOO/LO lists on a regular base, except for > the security lists.
Okay. I think it would be as others expressed, to give more on the early history of a rather significant artifact. The early history of the application is something that continues with us, and it’s also something that’s frankly interesting, at least to those of us curious about how multiperson collaborations of this sort are conceived and then produced over decades. > > And you are right wrt many early developers working for Open-Xchange now :) Yes, and perhaps one day we’ll even see something (I joke; there is already something). > > We are 14(!) former colleagues from Sun's OpenOffice.org.team. 12 of them > even already worked for StarDivision. Wow. > > Same focus - Office productivity, ODF and OOXML. Hm. You might want to share with us what’s going on over there…. > > Just different technology - now written for the browser. Right. Can you edit in the browser? I mean, edit ODF or OOXML docs. using, for instance, Chrome or Firefox or Safari? > > Best regards > Malte. > Best, Louis > > > On 27.10.2014 19:57, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> Malte! >> So, you do realize this is probably one of the very very few witness >> accounts we have of the origins of StarOffice? (later OpenOffice) ... and >> if you were to consent to writing more--or being interviewed in a podcast >> for more--we, or at least I, would be grateful... and better informed of >> that application that has so formed my adult life. >> >> best >> louis >> >> On 27 October 2014 14:53, Malte Timmermann <malte_timmerm...@gmx.com> wrote: >> >>> Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th >>> Anniversary. >>> >>> StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In >>> Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows. >>> >>> In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg. >>> StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. By >>> completely different people. >>> >>> When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we >>> also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting >>> from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac >>> version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years went >>> by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to create native >>> system widgets for their corresponding components. As this approach lead to >>> different issues, and not all systems had the same set of widgets, we later >>> replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today. >>> >>> First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw developed >>> outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology stack. Iirc, >>> StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all components based >>> on StarView. >>> >>> The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There >>> also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 for >>> DOS (which already was available in version 6 then). >>> >>> The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page: >>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice >>> >>> Just some historical data.... :) >>> >>> Best regards >>> Malte. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini >>>> <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the >>>>>> continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a >>>>>> proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself >>>>>> started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas what we might do? >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that >>>>>> can run the original StarWriter? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about >>>>> a >>>>> StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Cool! >>>> >>>> This is from Wikipedia: >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History >>>> >>>> It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was >>>> released in 1985. >>>> >>>> No idea where to get the code. Maybe Juergen or another "old-timer" >>>> would have a clue for us? >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> Roberto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It looks like some emulators here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 >>>>>> >>>>>> It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to >>>>>> release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution >>>>>> of the UI. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> -Rob >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
