On 01/22/2015 09:42 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Before improving the messages and taking another run at the Java
> explanation on the web site, I ran more tests to be certain I knew
> the circumstances for one of the messages that is tied to SQL
> Exceptions.
> 
> One thing I noticed (which was useful for seeing how the different
> messages arise) is that the default embedded database produced by
> OpenOffice Base is HSQLDB, which is 100% Java-required.
> 
> According to the HSQLDB site, there was collaboration on upgrading
> the version of HSQLDB, <http://hsqldb.org/web/openoffice.html>.
> That's from November 2011 though.
> 
> I have three questions:
> 
> 1. What happened with regard to the improvements with regard to the
> version of HSQLDB used?

We're still using the base of hsqldb 1.8 with patches for use with
 java 7.
See: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121754

There had been some additional discussion switching to hsql 2.3 but this
has not been done.

See : https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121837


> 2. What happened with regard to being able to make an HSQLDB for
> local use but external to the .ODB file?

I don't recall a discussion like this. Can you provide a reference?

> 3. Is there any effort at any stage of development to use a local but
> non-Java-requiring database?

Not that I'm aware of. We've had requests for other dbs like sqlite but
these were not in-depth discussions of a replacement.

At some point, we do need a more in-depth discussion about Base. Please
feel free to start this if you like.

> 
> This isn't going to matter with regard to immediately cleaning up the
> messages and the explanation on the web site.  I'm just curious
> because Base is a place that might have some relatively isolatable
> maintenance work (or maybe not).

I think you're right about this.

> 
> - Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton
> [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015
> 10:39 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: Explaining Java (was
> RE: Java 32)
> 
> I've started working over the six Java-specific messages that are
> produced by AOO and adjusting the localizable explanation at
> <http://openoffice.org/xx/java>.
> 
> WEB SITE QUESTION:
> 
> For page-specific images that I want to include under
> content/xx/java/, can I simply put them in that directory, since they
> are only used by the web page(s) there?
> 
> I am thinking that will work perfectly for localization, because the
> localized versions of those folders can replace the images made from
> screen captures with equivalent ones made from the same-language UI.
> And for starters, copies of the xx/java/ images can continue to be
> used until localization-friendlier ones are supplied.
> 
> Is this a good way to approach this?  Is there different guidance
> with regard to images having such local context?
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 07:28 To:
> dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Explaining Java (was RE: Java
> 32)
> 
> Am 12/30/2014 03:54 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: [ ... ]
>> <orcmid> I thought the idea was to create
>> openoffice.org/java/index.htm and seed the xx structure from that.
>> Have I misunderstood how that is usually done? </orcmid>
> 
> I think there was no agreemnt here. However, it's just a commit more
>  when we all agree that this is the best place. Can be done later as
> the page was recently updated by Kay.
> 
>> So, now the several error messages need to be updated.
>> 
>> <orcmid> Some of the error messages can be essentially unchanged
>> because they happen when the JRE is installed or has been
>> intentionally avoided.  I will put up a suggested list when I am
>> feeling better. </orcmid>
> 
> That would be great. I'm a bit lost to resolve which text part is 
> combined with what and in which case.
> 
> Marcus
> 
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