On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:58:38 +0100
Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> 
> Am 18.02.19 um 16:53 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 15:08:09 +0000
> > Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:00:20 +0100
> >> Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Rory,
> >>>
> >>> Am 15.02.19 um 11:22 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> >>>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:55:32 +0200
> >>>> Damjan Jovanovic <dam...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable
> >>>>> understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have
> >>>>> time.
> >>>> A quick experiment with Writer in 4.2.0 shows me that one cannot insert 
> >>>> a background fill (Area tab) when making a frame, but one can 
> >>>> subsequently select the frame and then insert the background.
> >>>>   
> >>>> Also, the Frame toolbar does not show onscreen for me, so I am unable to 
> >>>> attempt Linking frames, whether empty or with background fill.  Using 
> >>>> /View /Toolbars : Frame turns off the Formatting toolbar, but does not 
> >>>> display the Frame toolbar.  I am reasonably sure the Frame toolbar is 
> >>>> not anywhere on my desktop (several monitors in use - checked it is not 
> >>>> hidden behind anything).
> >>> I have seen this "hidden" toolbar on Linux (with a fresh profile) but
> >>> never could reproduce it on Windows.
> >>>
> >>> However, Revision 1853741 should fix it.
> > OK, on 
> > AOO420m1(Build:9820)  -  Rev. 1853744
> > 2019-02-17_20:20:13 - Rev. 1853770
> >
> > just now installed (old profile used): The Frame toolbar shows on Linux deb 
> > 64 when a frame is selected.  I can link frames OK.  However, I cannot 
> > insert a background (Area) fill when defining a frame.  The system hangs, 
> > then crashes.  The old linux trick of starting openoffice4 in a terminal 
> > does not give any diagnostic information after such a crash.
> 
> You mix up two separate issues here...
> 
> I only fixed the hidden toolbar. The crash is well known and documented:
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias

Thanks - I understand that; however, it is probably useful to note the 
continued existence of other problems concerned with a limited area of 
functionality - in this case, frames.

Rory 

> 
> >
> > I can, once a frame is made, select it and change the background (Area) 
> > colour.  If a frame has had a background inserted after making the frame, 
> > its linking to another frame is uncertain - the background colour is 
> > sometimes treated as frame content and linking is not permitted; however, 
> > the logic of "content" in a frame probably ought be inserted content such 
> > as text or illustration, not structural content such as a background colour 
> > generated at frame make time; but until a frame can have such content 
> > generated at frame make time, one cannot experiment in any detail.
> >
> > Rory
> >>
> >> OK, downloading now - will try this over next few days, but little time 
> >> until later in the week.
> >>
> >> Rory
> >>
> >>>> (I am using AOO420m1(Build:9800)  -  Rev. 1851640
> >>>> 2019-01-19 15:48:21 (Sat, 19 Jan 2019) - Linux x86_64 [Apache OpenOffice 
> >>>> Test Development Build] running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 64 bit)
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't currently use Frames in any of my works in progress, so this is 
> >>>> not a matter of any urgency for me.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am of course ready to try any interim version (whether public or 
> >>>> private) to examine any change in this or other problems.
> >>> You can try a build from our buildbot:
> >>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/41x/
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>    Matthias
> >>>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie>
> >>
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