Hi Marcus,

Am 01.10.19 um 20:20 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 01.10.19 um 10:33 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Am 01.10.19 um 01:23 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 30.09.19 um 22:59 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Am 30.09.19 um 22:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>> We had constant 7 votes on 4.1.7 and 4.1.6 release. However only 3
>>>>> volunteers voted in both releases.
>>>>> These numbers are low in general. Maybe we need to organize test
>>>>> phases in order to raize the numbers. This will still not raise test
>>>>> attendance for a single feature.
>>>>>
>>>>> How about we schedule a test release every quarter? These releases
>>>>> do not necessary lead to a release and are announced as unstable.
>>>>> But it would give people a better time frame to plan and we can
>>>>> advertise for tester.
>>>>
>>>> I build new versions about every second week.
>>>> For sure, people are downloading these builds and use them on a daily
>>>> base. Still no feedback!
>>>>
>>>> The problem isn't about the builds...
>>>
>>> to make it a bit more comfortable for you: What about to build only
>>> when it is worth it (e.g., after some commits or bigger/important
>>> commits and not with a fixed time schedule?
>>
>> I am not uncomfortable with building AOO. In fact I build even more
>> often to test my changes before I commit.
>> I only upload once a week or two. ;-)
>>
>> And don't forget that we have no working buildbots anymore!
>
> sure, I just want to show you a way to reduce your builds. Especially
> when the commit rate is very low at the moment.

I do only build (for my personal use) when I did a commit. This way I
can monitor if something is broken.
Constant QA is something missing from this project for way too long...

Matthias

>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>>>> Am 30. September 2019 21:13:52 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel
>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>:
>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 30.09.19 um 18:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that it is likely people were focused on 4.1.7 testing.
>>>>>> Where have all these people been when we voted for release? ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My personal opinion is that if switching does not require users to
>>>>>> switch and they can use the Oracle JRE if that is what they have
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> the change make sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The user is still free to choose whatever JRE he/she wants (and is
>>>>>> detected by AOO).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I build with AdoptOpenJDK for some weeks now [1] and have found no
>>>>>> problems. But that *really* needs more testing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Matthias
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-420-Test/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> No feedback=No interest?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe I should stop providing test builds.
>>>>>>>> That would save me a lot of my spare time...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Matthias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 05.09.19 um 12:58 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Keith, all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you have time to test?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Feedback is always welcome... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Matthias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 01.09.19 um 18:23 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.08.19 um 18:45 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.08.19 um 15:37 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/31/2019 4:23 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the moment I am doing my test builds (trunk and 42X) for
>>>>>> Windows with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest Oracle JDK (8u221).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still able to download, but Oracle changed its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> licensing.
>>>>>> I am not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lawyer and would prefer to move away from it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damjan recently introduced some patches, so AOO can now work
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AdoptOpenJDK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is available in 32 bit, which is still needed for Windows
>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am just doing a build for AOO 4.2.0 with AdaptOpenJDK
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (8u222)
>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks good so far...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Matthias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html?variant=openjdk8&jvmVariant=hotspot#x32_win
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathias;
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds like it has great potential as it appears to gives
>>>>>> us a
>>>>>>>>>>>> potential path beyond version 8 as a cursory reading of the
>>>>>> AdoptOpenJDK
>>>>>>>>>>>> web site shows that it supports version 11 and 12 for both
>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>> 32 and 64 bit systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I look forward to testing your new version 4.2.0 build with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> AdoptOpenJDK.
>>>>>>>>>>> You will find them at the usual place:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-420-Test/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They should be up tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>> Builds are online!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please test, especially everything related to Java. ;-)
>
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