Quick question. So once this migration is complete, we can only use git for changes?

Good that you're making use of the old CMS scripts. I didn't see any BIG reason not to do this.

"And in the end, only kindness matters."
   -- Jewel, "Hands"
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 MzK


On 10/1/19 10:31 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
Hi -

Heads up that I’m starting to do the migration,

Repos name must start with OpenOffice.

I propose these:

OpenOffice-DevWebsite
OpenOffice-OrgWebsite
I’ll be tackling the project site first.

I plan to make use of https://S.apache.org/asfyaml so that we will have staging 
and production.

I may use the Apache CMS scripts for page generation. Infra-VP does not have 
trouble with those being on a Jenkins or Buildbot node. I may use jBake which 
I’ve used with the Incubator site. It may use both.

Changes will be done in GIT and the CMS WebGUI will not be used. Committers 
will be able to change the git repos. There will be instructions on the local 
build as well. I’m starting with the local build.

This will take sometime.

If someone wants to redesign our Websites Look & Feel then proposals welcome. I 
may play with it myself...

Regards,
Dave

I have one more question. Jörg has mentioned that a lot of outside
links point to the current web pages. What do we do with this? Do we
make an announcement that this will happen and maybe give people some
sort of hint to update their link lists?
If we track what we change then we can create https redirection rules.

Best Regards,
Dave


All the Best

Peter

On 24.09.19 22:54, Dave Fisher wrote:
Hi Kay,

I promised to look into this migration after Apachecon.

I’ve been thinking through a plan the last few days.

See inline.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi --

The last item I saw on this topic was this one concerning the new CMS

https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg36504.html

and I recall you mentioning at one point that it was desirable to do some 
housecleaning on the www.openoffice.org web site due to size and no longer 
pertinent information.

Some questions at this point --

* was a new "CMS" chosen? If so what is it and where can we find additional 
information?
Not exactly. Here is the plan.

(1) Copy OpenOffice.apache.org svn to a new git repository.

(2) Learn to use the new infra supported yaml tags to try a few different build 
techniques. I am familiar with JBake from the incubator build but Pelican is 
possible.

(3) Finish the project site.

(4) Rinse and repeat with the OpenOffice.org site

The current site, as Dave pointed out earlier, uses a lot of the current CMS 
capabilities in terms of page rendering, dealing with the many languages of the 
site etc. to render the static content.
We’ll figure that out.

If someone wants to redesign the site we can work through it in parallel.
* How long will svn continue to function for both www.openoffice.org and 
openoffice.apache.org?
The CMS is fragile and if it falls down it could become a blocking issue. Infra 
will warm is if things are immanent. I did discuss our migration briefly with 
an infra person at ACNA19.

* It seems it would be advantageous to do a LOT of housecleaning on 
www.openoffice.org before migration

I don't have ANY ideas about archiving www.openoffice.org. It is quite large. I could 
certainly help in about a month with the "housecleaning" aspect of both sites 
assuming they remain svn accessible for a while. But I'm assuming we might want archives 
of both even before that. Yes?
Tag the SVN repository before starting its cleanup. Feel free to keep a local 
copy.

I recommend doing cleanup on a local copy and checking in the results.

So, three parallel threads.

(1) Cleanup
(2) Redesign if needed.
(3) Move to git and away from CMS

Regards,
Dave

-- MzK



On 9/19/19 10:01 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
Hello all,


Can everyone interested in this topic give a short status?

Short ping on the current availability. And list any impediments or
difficulties that he currently sees where others can help with.

I would very much like to see this take some drive. And I would love to
see George delivering something, so we can review committer status in
the near future. (As I do with any other volunteer knocking on our door.)


Thanks

All the Best

Peter


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