:
> 
> Quick question. So once this migration is complete, we can only use git for 
> changes?

Yes. Staging will exist. I’m not sure of the exact publishing mechanics yet, 
but it should be straight forward to the user.

> 
> Good that you're making use of the old CMS scripts. I didn't see any BIG 
> reason not to do this.

Thanks.

Regards,
Dave
> 
> "And in the end, only kindness matters."
>   -- Jewel, "Hands"
> ______
> MzK
> 
> 
>> On 10/1/19 10:31 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Hi -
>> 
>> Heads up that I’m starting to do the migration,
>> 
>>> Repos name must start with OpenOffice.
>>> 
>>> I propose these:
>>> 
>>> OpenOffice-DevWebsite
>>> OpenOffice-OrgWebsite
>> I’ll be tackling the project site first.
>> 
>> I plan to make use of https://S.apache.org/asfyaml so that we will have 
>> staging and production.
>> 
>> I may use the Apache CMS scripts for page generation. Infra-VP does not have 
>> trouble with those being on a Jenkins or Buildbot node. I may use jBake 
>> which I’ve used with the Incubator site. It may use both.
>> 
>> Changes will be done in GIT and the CMS WebGUI will not be used. Committers 
>> will be able to change the git repos. There will be instructions on the 
>> local build as well. I’m starting with the local build.
>> 
>> This will take sometime.
>> 
>> If someone wants to redesign our Websites Look & Feel then proposals 
>> welcome. I may play with it myself...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>>> I have one more question. Jörg has mentioned that a lot of outside
>>>> links point to the current web pages. What do we do with this? Do we
>>>> make an announcement that this will happen and maybe give people some
>>>> sort of hint to update their link lists?
>>> If we track what we change then we can create https redirection rules.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All the Best
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24.09.19 22:54, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>> Hi Kay,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I promised to look into this migration after Apachecon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve been thinking through a plan the last few days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> See inline.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The last item I saw on this topic was this one concerning the new CMS
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg36504.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and I recall you mentioning at one point that it was desirable to do 
>>>>>> some housecleaning on the www.openoffice.org web site due to size and no 
>>>>>> longer pertinent information.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some questions at this point --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * was a new "CMS" chosen? If so what is it and where can we find 
>>>>>> additional information?
>>>>> Not exactly. Here is the plan.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (1) Copy OpenOffice.apache.org svn to a new git repository.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (2) Learn to use the new infra supported yaml tags to try a few different 
>>>>> build techniques. I am familiar with JBake from the incubator build but 
>>>>> Pelican is possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (3) Finish the project site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (4) Rinse and repeat with the OpenOffice.org site
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The current site, as Dave pointed out earlier, uses a lot of the current 
>>>>>> CMS capabilities in terms of page rendering, dealing with the many 
>>>>>> languages of the site etc. to render the static content.
>>>>> We’ll figure that out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If someone wants to redesign the site we can work through it in parallel.
>>>>>> * How long will svn continue to function for both www.openoffice.org and 
>>>>>> openoffice.apache.org?
>>>>> The CMS is fragile and if it falls down it could become a blocking issue. 
>>>>> Infra will warm is if things are immanent. I did discuss our migration 
>>>>> briefly with an infra person at ACNA19.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> * It seems it would be advantageous to do a LOT of housecleaning on 
>>>>>> www.openoffice.org before migration
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't have ANY ideas about archiving www.openoffice.org. It is quite 
>>>>>> large. I could certainly help in about a month with the "housecleaning" 
>>>>>> aspect of both sites assuming they remain svn accessible for a while. 
>>>>>> But I'm assuming we might want archives of both even before that. Yes?
>>>>> Tag the SVN repository before starting its cleanup. Feel free to keep a 
>>>>> local copy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I recommend doing cleanup on a local copy and checking in the results.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, three parallel threads.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (1) Cleanup
>>>>> (2) Redesign if needed.
>>>>> (3) Move to git and away from CMS
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- MzK
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/19/19 10:01 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can everyone interested in this topic give a short status?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Short ping on the current availability. And list any impediments or
>>>>>>> difficulties that he currently sees where others can help with.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would very much like to see this take some drive. And I would love to
>>>>>>> see George delivering something, so we can review committer status in
>>>>>>> the near future. (As I do with any other volunteer knocking on our 
>>>>>>> door.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All the Best
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> 
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