Hi Pedro,

Am 25.02.20 um 11:57 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Brian, all
>
> (Brian is included in BCC)
>
>> On February 24, 2020 4:56 AM Brian Barker 
>> <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>  
>> At 14:01 23/02/2020 +0100, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> To my knowledge in the past we did create an exe because you could 
>>> not double-click msi files. But Microsoft had fixed this for quite 
>>> some time and there is no real reason to keep the exe packaging.
> Not exactly. The exe file was needed because it self unpacked to a folder 
> containing a MSVC++ Runtime installer the OpenOffice installer and in some 
> cases even a Java Runtime installer and then would execute these installers 
> sequentially. Since AOO is no longer including runtimes, creating a 
> intermediate folder is really unnecessary.

We still include MSVC runtimes (both 32-bit and 64-bit are needed) and
MSVCR100.DLL.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
>> I'm no expert, but my understanding is that the .msi file is a 
>> database, required just as much during removal of any product as 
>> during installation. My impression is that products such as Microsoft 
>> Office quietly salt away a copy of the .msi file (or as much as is 
>> needed) and Windows uses this when the product is removed. Failing 
>> that, Windows remembers where the .msi file was during installation 
>> and seeks it out, asking for it if necessary. And all this applies 
>> when removal is effected by installing a later version, doesn't it?
> That is correct. At installation time Windows (at least since Windows XP) 
> stores a copy of the installer in C:\Windows\Installer, renames the file to a 
> 6 or 7 character name (e.g. 2dfbe4.msi, possibly to simplify information 
> storage in the registry) and it is this file that is executed when you 
> uninstall a program. 
> Therefore keeping the installer on the desktop (or on the same folder where 
> it was installed from) is no longer needed. When updating the new installer 
> will look for the version number of the same product and will install if the 
> version is newer and remove the older version.
>
>> Now the user may have thought (or even been told) that, once the 
>> product is installed, the downloaded files are no longer needed and 
>> may have deleted them. This used to result in a steady stream of 
>> requests to the Users list, asking how the new version can be 
>> installed when the process stalls at this point. Indeed, as recently 
>> as ten days ago, a user trying to install a current version reported 
>> to the Users list "Every time I try I get a message to insert the 
>> Open Office.org 3.2 disk". He must have installed the older version 
>> from a CD - which he may well no longer have.
> I just read the thread. When the installer mentions Disk it just means that 
> it is looking for the installer file in the same drive/path where it was 
> installed from (originally this actually meant a CD or even a Floppy disk)
> Maybe this user who is sticking to 3.2 (the last Sun branded release from 
> back in 2010!) is still using Windows 98 or 95?
> Nevertheless in some cases (especially when using registry cleaners) the 
> reference to the installer is lost. I believe the only option is to reinstall 
> the broken version and uninstall before installing a new version
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html
>
> Hope this helps
> Pedro
>
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