Am 11.11.20 um 19:34 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
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From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:43 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

Am 11.11.20 um 14:48 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

Am 11.11.20 um 08:49 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:34 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open
Source office
document productivity suite, announced today Apache
OpenOffice 4.1.8,
now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
[...]

I think it is absolutely obvious that version 4.1.8 is an
update (and not an upgrade).
I don't understand why this is wrongly labeled in the
announcement as well as in the release notes.

a new release within the 4.1.x release branch cannot be big by
definition of the version schema. So, so using the word
"upgrade" is not
wrong. This is my opinion.

And to be honest, I don't see a problem here. The difference
of meaning
between "update" and "upgrade" is not really big.

Good release notes, as well as good documentation and much
more are a necessary part of good software.
Why is it once again seemingly more important to reject
criticism than to take it up and consider it for the future?

I'm sorry Marcus, it's just this climate in the community
that has kept me from working more intensively for a long time.

I don't understand why you see here a bad climate.

I spoke of a climate that I do not like. And I did this because I see that 
criticism for improvement is too often understood as negative.

I don't speak for all in the project.

Have you read what you write?

no, I always don't look for my writings.
Come on. ;-)

at first:
"a new release within the 4.1.x release branch _cannot be big_ by definition of the 
version schema"

and to this I say: you are absolutely right

but then you write:
"_so_ using the word "upgrade" is not wrong."

and to this I say: if the change is small it would rather be an "update", because 
"upgrade" generally applies to larger changes

Maybe because I see and understand it from the other side?

Also Wikipedia explains the difference between "update" and "upgrade" in this direction (sorry, only in German):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upgrade#Unterschied_zwischen_Upgrade,_Update_und_Downgrade

But I don't claim that Wikipedia is always right. Nor my opitions.

Marcus


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