Hi Dave,

On 8/3/22 5:34 AM, Dave wrote:
Sorry folks. Dave Fisher sensed correctly it was a particularly bad day
with some domestic issues I am dealing with at the moment and I should
not have vented my frustrations at people who did not deserve my
"knee-jerk" reaction to a misunderstanding.

I would like to put my outburst aside and move on with AOO.

Thanks Dave.
Your participation is greatly appreciated.

All the best,
Carl


Regards
Dave Barton

On 02/08/2022 17:12, Dave Fisher wrote:
After 21 years working with users of OpenOffice.org, Apache OpenOffice, and 
LibreOffice Dave’s experience should be respected and not dismissed.

Assume a bad day or frustration instead of further reaction. Apologizing for 
misunderstanding someone is good, friendly community building.

Assume the best,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Peter kovacs <peter.kov...@posteo.de> wrote:

Hi Dave,

Can you explain?
I do not understand why Dave is angry.
I dont think Matthias wanted to offend Dave.

Thanks.
Peter

Am 2. August 2022 16:54:04 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net>:
I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion.

If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from 
moderation.

All the best,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
I am not sure what happened here...

But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter".

According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We
should discuss if we need to remove his rights.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage
quit.

There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to
late for that.

Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave:
Hi Matthias,

Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you
had absolutely no sense of humour.

Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you
have ever had contact with. So please do NOT!!!!! (expletives deleted)
talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess
who they might be.

YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here
on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine".

Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list
will now be directed to null/dev.

BYE AOO!


On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote:
Hi Dave,

Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave:
Hi Matthias,

Sorry, but you loose that bet.

I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and
installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only
readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with
16Gb
RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close
enough.

Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer
SOMETHING to assist Peter.
I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user.

And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer.

@Peter:
On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO
4.1.13
edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of
to create a crash, but it remained rock solid.

Is there any difference between the RC and released code?
No.

Regards,

    Matthias

Regards
Dave


On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote:
Hi Dave,

Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave:
Hi Matthias,

Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box.

I have never been a fan of GNOME.
I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-)

Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and
a lot
of people *are* using GNOME...

Regards,

    Matthias

Regards
Dave

On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote:
Hi Dave,

Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint?

We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other
distributions when
GNOME is used as DE.

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave:
On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote:
Hi all,

I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO.

As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy&Paste (From
LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes.

Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint?

Check out the document:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing


I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate.

My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So
recent fast
machine)

All the best

Peter
Hi Peter,

Not sure if this will be of any help to you.

My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am  on Linux
Mint 20.3

I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO
4.1.13
(Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with
either
AOO or LibreOffice on Linux.

However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to
edit the
OLE Calc object in your document with LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64
on Win 10,
but it does not crash LibreOffice 7.4.0.2 x64 on Win 10.

Regards
Dave

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