Hi Michael,

Michael Meeks wrote:
Hi Mathias,

        So, while broadly agreeing with most of what you say:

On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 08:53 +0100, Mathias Bauer wrote:
Without the spec the QA wouldn't be able to even find bugs in
many cases (with the exception of obvious ones).

        We hear this a lot. And, now we know that specifications are frequently
inaccurate, buggy / out of sync with the code anyway. So - I'm having

The team which worked out the specification process know that the
specifications are not in the highest quality now. This is a learning
process for each member on the specification (User Experience,
Development, Quality Assurance and Documentation). So each team makes
errors know. But the errors are lower than without having a process,
like in OOo 1.1.x time frame.

problems understanding what -exactly- QA need here. It'd help to have 10
representative examples of times when a specification has actually
helped distinguish between bugs & features, and what was done with that
information [ writing tests / whatever ].


You can take nearly each of the new specifications and the corresponding CWS. You will see, that very often bugs were written after the CWS go
into the QA for the first time.


Thorsten

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