All,
IF THE BUTLER SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS SOFTWARE WAS ACCESSED ELECTRONICALLY, CLICK
"DISAGREE/DECLINE".
So... by installing, I am violating the license agreement?
Joseph Armbruster
On Jan 7, 2008 9:47 AM, Joseph Armbruster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> All,
>
> I am not sure what this line means:
>
> IF THE BUTLER SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS SOFTWARE WAS ACCESSED ELECTRONICALLY,
> CLICK "DISAGREE/DECLINE".
>
> Joseph Armbruster
>
>
>
> On Jan 7, 2008 9:46 AM, Joseph Armbruster < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > I downloaded the free trial, here is a copy of the license agreement it
> > comes with:
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> > 13. Trademark
> > Any usage of the Butler Software Solutions trademark, in whole or in
> > part, for software that is not directly affiliated with the trademark holder
> > is hereby forbidden.
> > Butler Software Solutions and/or the trademark holder will take whatever
> > legal action is necessary to ensure no one uses the Butler Software
> > Solutions trademark in any way the trademark holder deems to be unfit.
> > Punishable to the full extent of the law.
> >
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> >
> > On Jan 7, 2008 9:18 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The Mac version looks like the Aqua build.
> > > All the libraries etc looks like what is found in a typical OOo
> > > install.
> > >
> > > CLosed license and impossibility to save anything with the trial
> > > version...
> > >
> > > Etc...
> > >
> > > Jean-Christophe Helary
> > >
> > > On 7 janv. 08, at 22:11, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Charles,
> > > >
> > > > * you see this in the screenshots on their website
> > > >
> > > > * you can download a trial version
> > > > ** this trial version claims that on my box that a newer version of
> > > > butler office is installed :-)
> > > > ** The Windows version identifies itself in the about box as a build
> > > > 9095 (OOE680m6). The Mac version as build 9161 (OOF680m18).
> > > >
> > > > I assume that also people who paid for the office also get no access
> > >
> > > > to the source code.
> > > > The included license looks weired, I will have a deeper look into
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > > >> Hello Kevin,
> > > >>
> > > >> ButlerPro is not one of our contributors. However, I'd be curious
> > > >> to know how you can see that they're using the OpenOffice.org
> > > >> codebase.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best Regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Charles-H. Schulz.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Kevin Ogden a écrit :
> > > >>> http://www.butlerofficepro.com/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://www.butlerofficepro.com/ebay
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It's certainly a modified version of OpenOffice. They don't
> > > >>> mention OpenOffice nor do they provide source. Right down to the
> > > >>> soffice.bin executable in the OS X package.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Also check out
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2008-Office-Pro-for-Mac-Microsoft-Vista-XP_W0QQitemZ190187536162QQihZ009QQcategoryZ80241QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > > >>>
> > > >>> They openly bash open source software on this page yet their
> > > >>> product is based on it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've had an unsuccessful discussion with them on this if you all
> > > >>> would like me to forward it to the list. The only contact info on
> > >
> > > >>> the page was the customer service e-mail address <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>> >. I have a feeling it's just a guy or 3 in a basement because
> > > >>> the reply was instantaneous and whoever it was didn't seem like a
> > > >>> typical customer service rep. He was a bit more knowledgeable
> > > >>> than a typical customer service rep.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If I'm wrong and they do contribute code back, my apologies. I
> > > >>> certainly haven't seen anything however. I just felt the need to
> > > >>> point this out.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --Kevin
> > > >>>
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