I’ll clarify my comment from the GitHub discussion that Matthew referenced. I 
did not mean that a 1.0 release without rolling upgrade support wouldn’t be 
practically useful. I agree with Jean-Luc, Alex and others that it’s a good 
idea to have an initial rename-only release to allow downstream dependencies 
and other curious users to get started with it.

In fact, I think that even if Pekko 1.0 did support rolling upgrades from Akka 
2.6, critical production deployments would not adopt it immediately.

Even if there is a significant set of users who won’t adopt 1.0, there's 
another significant set of users who might. You have to start somewhere.

-- 
Tim Moore


> On 31 Oct 2022, at 1:50 am, Jean-Luc Deprez <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Interesting, the mail from Alex landed in spam.
> 
> Having a rolling migration seems like setting the bar too high for a 1.0.
> 
> Getting a pure renamed 1.0 out, shows capability and opens up both a new
> target and window for community PRs, which I feel are in limbo ATM.
> Those could include rolling release proposals.
> 
> The sooner the better too, as it should be way ahead of the security fix
> commitment of lightbend expiring, otherwise most of the community will have
> left elsewhere.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2022, 14:12 Matthew Benedict de Detrich
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> There are issues with this approach as pointed out in
>> https://github.com/mdedetrich/akka-apache-project/discussions/25 and
>> https://github.com/mdedetrich/akka-apache-project/discussions/28. In
>> summary such a release may not actually even be practical useful for a
>> significant set of current Akka users because they cannot perform rolling
>> upgrades from Akka to Pekko unless additional changes are done.
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 6:15 PM Alexandru Nedelcu <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, at 19:04, PJ Fanning wrote:
>>>> We are also quite a long way away from making any big changes. I think
>>>> the majority of the Pekko community are interested in releasing an
>>>> open source equivalent of Akka with as few changes as possible.
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> The first release should have just the necessary package name changed —
>>> this unfreezes downstream projects that may want to switch to the fork,
>> or
>>> to support it as an alternative to Akka.
>>> 
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