In the thread on lists.apache.org, the subject is `[RESULT] [VOTE] use Github discussions feature`.
https://lists.apache.org/thread/oypsnlypqkmorhplf2b45lz8v09t8myr On 2022/11/04 08:14:12 "Claude Warren, Jr" wrote: > PJ, In most of the projects I work on after the vote concludes the results > in published in an email with "[RESULT]" prepended to the original > subject. So for this one it would be: > > "[RESULT][VOTE] use Github discussions feature" > > however I think I have also seen it with the "[VOTE]" removed: > "[RESULT] use Github discussions feature" > > We should probably discuss this and decide how to announce the results. > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 9:04 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The vote carries and I will create an INFRA issue to get the change > > implemented. There is already a .asf.yaml setting to get the emails sent to > > the dev mailing list. We'll soon find out what those emails look like. > > > > I'm still getting used to the voting process for podlings. > > I counted 15 +1s from people who are currently committers, PPMC or mentors > > (or a combination). > > There were 3 other +1s. > > > > > > On 2022/11/03 09:14:40 "Claude Warren, Jr" wrote: > > > For enabling github discussions I vote: > > > +1 (non binding) > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 9:12 AM Matthew Benedict de Detrich > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I am confused right now. Iirc this [VOTE] thread is originally a vote > > on > > > > whether to enable GitHub discussions (which it is on track for > > passing). > > > > > > > > Github projects is a different thing and should be discussed in another > > > > thread (I agree talking about it here is confusing). > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Matthew de Detrich > > > > Aiven Deutschland GmbH > > > > Immanuelkirchstraße 26, 10405 Berlin > > > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > > > > > > > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > > > > m: +491603708037 > > > > w: aiven.io e: [email protected] > > > > On 3. Nov 2022 at 10:04 +0100, PJ Fanning <[email protected]>, > > wrote: > > > > > I guess most people voted on the original proposal - first email in > > > > > thread. Maybe that email can be misinterpreted but it was generally > > > > > just to ask if we want Github Projects enabled. > > > > > > > > > > There was no mention of how it was meant to be used and what > > > > > information, if any ends up on the dev mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > These rules could be voted on separately or we could cancel this vote > > > > > and come back later with a more detailed resolution to vote on. > > > > > > > > > > I think maybe cancelling this vote is the best way to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 09:52, Claude Warren, Jr > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a vote and I still don't know what I am voting on. > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is this is to turn on github discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Will those discussions be forwarded to an email list or is > > there no > > > > > > connection between the two? > > > > > > 2. If there is a connection, will postings on the email list be > > > > > > forwarded back to the discussions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 7:06 AM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Github Projects feature is easy to enable. Github Discussions > > feature > > > > > > > needs INFRA team to be involved, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Github Projects can be enabled by modifying the .asf.yaml file > > in the > > > > > > > git repository. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 07:35, Matthew Benedict de Detrich > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe we are on the same page here, to me GitHub > > discussions is > > > > > > > basically replacing what Lightbend/Akka forums was used for in > > the > > > > original > > > > > > > Akka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding project management, Github does actually have > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.github.com/en/issues/planning-and-tracking-with-projects/learning-about-projects/about-projects > > > > > > > which I am curious in trying out. Not sure if Apache has any say > > on > > > > the > > > > > > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Matthew de Detrich > > > > > > > > Aiven Deutschland GmbH > > > > > > > > Immanuelkirchstraße 26, 10405 Berlin > > > > > > > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > > > > > > > > m: +491603708037 > > > > > > > > w: aiven.io e: [email protected] > > > > > > > > On 2. Nov 2022 at 16:13 +0100, Alexandru Nedelcu < > > > > [email protected]>, > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Github Discussions are good for new users seeking help. Kind > > of > > > > like a > > > > > > > StackOverflow. Or for fuzzy discussions, forum-style. Old-school > > > > mailing > > > > > > > lists are hard to subscribe and use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that our discussions will happen more in GH > > > > Issues and > > > > > > > PRs. Or on ASF's mailing lists. Personally I haven't > > participated in > > > > any > > > > > > > project using GH Discussions for anything meaningful. Maybe it's > > > > because > > > > > > > the feature is new. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest a trial, to see how it feels. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I also suspect that Github's "Issues" is where dev > > > > discussions are > > > > > > > more natural, as Issues represent either concrete enhancement > > > > proposals or > > > > > > > bug reports, which can then be tied to PRs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't paid attention, but I think the better question is > > > > whether > > > > > > > project management (e.g., Issues) happens on Github. I hope it > > is. > > > > In which > > > > > > > case, the discussions in those issues may need to be forwarded. > > But > > > > this > > > > > > > may be another discussion (that may have happened already, sorry > > if > > > > it did). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2022, at 16:48, Claude Warren, Jr wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am still not clear on what happens when the link is > > > > established. > > > > > > > Do all > > > > > > > > > > discussions get posted to dev? Do all Dev posts get posted > > to > > > > > > > > > > discussions? What exactly are we enabling? Or is it just > > > > turning on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > discussions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 2:32 PM PJ Fanning < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that many Pekko project members expressed an > > > > interest in > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > the Github Discussions feature. If we find it too > > burdensome > > > > to get > > > > > > > > > > > the discussions synched to the dev mailing list, we can > > > > review > > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > > > > using the Github Discussions feature is a good idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may also suit users who are not Pekko committers and > > who > > > > may not > > > > > > > > > > > want to join a mailing list to post a comment - but who > > have > > > > Github > > > > > > > > > > > accounts - to raise questions or express an opinion on a > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 15:46, Claude Warren, Jr > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What exactly does enabling the github discussion > > features > > > > do in > > > > > > > terms of > > > > > > > > > > > > the interaction between the github discussion and a > > > > mailing list? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When this is enabled, what exactly will the difference > > be? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Claude > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 2:00 PM PJ Fanning < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > INFRA team requires that we discuss whether to enable > > > > Github > > > > > > > > > > > Discussions > > > > > > > > > > > > > before applying to enable it for the Pekko repos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have discussed this topic (among other items) in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/0hohnn9v0xhxn0qblb196p7mcq7jzz00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will leave this vote open until end of day UTC on > > Nov > > > > 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Votes are: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 -- in favour > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0 -- neutral (but maybe have an opinion to express) > > > > > > > > > > > > > -1 -- against > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vote carries if there are more +1s than -1s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my +1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Alexandru Nedelcu > > > > > > > > > alexn.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
