For enabling github discussions I vote:
+1 (non binding)

On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 9:12 AM Matthew Benedict de Detrich
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I am confused right now. Iirc this [VOTE] thread is originally a vote on
> whether to enable GitHub discussions (which it is on track for passing).
>
> Github projects is a different thing and should be discussed in another
> thread (I agree talking about it here is confusing).
>
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> On 3. Nov 2022 at 10:04 +0100, PJ Fanning <[email protected]>, wrote:
> > I guess most people voted on the original proposal - first email in
> > thread. Maybe that email can be misinterpreted but it was generally
> > just to ask if we want Github Projects enabled.
> >
> > There was no mention of how it was meant to be used and what
> > information, if any ends up on the dev mailing list.
> >
> > These rules could be voted on separately or we could cancel this vote
> > and come back later with a more detailed resolution to vote on.
> >
> > I think maybe cancelling this vote is the best way to go.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 09:52, Claude Warren, Jr
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a vote and I still don't know what I am voting on.
> > >
> > > My understanding is this is to turn on github discussions.
> > >
> > > My questions are:
> > >
> > > 1. Will those discussions be forwarded to an email list or is there no
> > > connection between the two?
> > > 2. If there is a connection, will postings on the email list be
> > > forwarded back to the discussions?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 7:06 AM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Github Projects feature is easy to enable. Github Discussions feature
> > > > needs INFRA team to be involved,
> > > >
> > > > Github Projects can be enabled by modifying the .asf.yaml file in the
> > > > git repository.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 07:35, Matthew Benedict de Detrich
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe we are on the same page here, to me GitHub discussions is
> > > > basically replacing what Lightbend/Akka forums was used for in the
> original
> > > > Akka.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding project management, Github does actually have
> > > >
> https://docs.github.com/en/issues/planning-and-tracking-with-projects/learning-about-projects/about-projects
> > > > which I am curious in trying out. Not sure if Apache has any say on
> the
> > > > matter.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Matthew de Detrich
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> > > > > On 2. Nov 2022 at 16:13 +0100, Alexandru Nedelcu <
> [email protected]>,
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Github Discussions are good for new users seeking help. Kind of
> like a
> > > > StackOverflow. Or for fuzzy discussions, forum-style. Old-school
> mailing
> > > > lists are hard to subscribe and use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm pretty sure that our discussions will happen more in GH
> Issues and
> > > > PRs. Or on ASF's mailing lists. Personally I haven't participated in
> any
> > > > project using GH Discussions for anything meaningful. Maybe it's
> because
> > > > the feature is new.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would suggest a trial, to see how it feels.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But I also suspect that Github's "Issues" is where dev
> discussions are
> > > > more natural, as Issues represent either concrete enhancement
> proposals or
> > > > bug reports, which can then be tied to PRs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I haven't paid attention, but I think the better question is
> whether
> > > > project management (e.g., Issues) happens on Github. I hope it is.
> In which
> > > > case, the discussions in those issues may need to be forwarded. But
> this
> > > > may be another discussion (that may have happened already, sorry if
> it did).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2022, at 16:48, Claude Warren, Jr wrote:
> > > > > > > I am still not clear on what happens when the link is
> established.
> > > > Do all
> > > > > > > discussions get posted to dev? Do all Dev posts get posted to
> > > > > > > discussions? What exactly are we enabling? Or is it just
> turning on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > discussions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 2:32 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I guess that many Pekko project members expressed an
> interest in
> > > > using
> > > > > > > > the Github Discussions feature. If we find it too burdensome
> to get
> > > > > > > > the discussions synched to the dev mailing list, we can
> review
> > > > whether
> > > > > > > > using the Github Discussions feature is a good idea.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It may also suit users who are not Pekko committers and who
> may not
> > > > > > > > want to join a mailing list to post a comment - but who have
> Github
> > > > > > > > accounts - to raise questions or express an opinion on a
> discussion
> > > > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 15:46, Claude Warren, Jr
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What exactly does enabling the github discussion features
> do in
> > > > terms of
> > > > > > > > > the interaction between the github discussion and a
> mailing list?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When this is enabled, what exactly will the difference be?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Claude
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 2:00 PM PJ Fanning <
> [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > INFRA team requires that we discuss whether to enable
> Github
> > > > > > > > Discussions
> > > > > > > > > > before applying to enable it for the Pekko repos.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We have discussed this topic (among other items) in
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/0hohnn9v0xhxn0qblb196p7mcq7jzz00
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I will leave this vote open until end of day UTC on Nov
> 3.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Votes are:
> > > > > > > > > > +1 -- in favour
> > > > > > > > > > 0 -- neutral (but maybe have an opinion to express)
> > > > > > > > > > -1 -- against
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Vote carries if there are more +1s than -1s.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Here is my +1.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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