Sorry, that one is for Web Apps

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 5:07 PM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <
dmitri.bourlatch...@dremio.com> wrote:

> I see jakarta.ws.rs.Produces in jakarta.ws.rs-api 3.0.0... Does HK2 have a
> lower version of jakarta?
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 4:22 PM Michael Collado <collado.m...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dmitri. The jakarta.inject api doesn't include the @Produces
>> annotation - is it one that's included in the enterprise package used by
>> Quarkus? I think that would eliminate some of the extra code and
>> complexity
>> in the current branch (e.g., a class can only implement one Factory<T>,
>> but
>> I could use @Produces on multiple methods in the same class).
>>
>> I made some (I think) substantial improvements in the application
>> bootstrapping - the previous work doesn't work for the bootstrap or purge
>> commands. I've posted a PR at https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/493
>> with the latest. I stripped out the cache stuff, as that's already
>> implemented in the other PR I opened the other day. Take a look at this
>> one
>> and let me know what you think.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 11:50 AM Dmitri Bourlatchkov
>> <dmitri.bourlatch...@dremio.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Mike,
>> >
>> > I had a brief, but end-to-end look at your latest HK2 branch. Overall, I
>> > think it is a good refactoring.
>> >
>> > I see that it uses standard jakarta annotations in most places, which
>> > should work fine with Quarkus too (as Alex already mentioned).
>> >
>> > I wonder whether implementing the HK2 Factory interface is actually
>> > necessary. Would it be able to find `@Produces` annotations
>> automatically?
>> >
>> > Let's proceed with the migration path doc (as discussed in other emails
>> in
>> > this thread).
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Dmitri.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 12:07 AM Michael Collado <
>> collado.m...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > FYI, I updated the branch to exclude HK2 dependencies from the core
>> > module
>> > > -
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/polaris/compare/main...collado-mike:polaris:mcollado-hk2-di
>> > > . The Factory implementations are defined in the polaris-service
>> module.
>> > >
>> > > I also created another branch at
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/collado-mike/polaris/compare/mcollado-hk2-di...mcollado-hk2-di-grantmanager
>> > > that merged the PR I have at
>> https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/465
>> > > using the CDI annotations rather than the extra factories I had
>> created
>> > in
>> > > the initial PR. This is still moving us toward supporting different
>> > > implementations of the various Polaris*Manager interfaces - still
>> relying
>> > > on the current concrete PolarisMetaStoreManager, but we can easily
>> extend
>> > > the HK2 service-locator file to support different manager
>> implementations
>> > > in future PRs. (I prefer smaller incremental moves before we go with
>> > > fully-swappable implementations).
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 8:37 PM Michael Collado <
>> collado.m...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hey thanks for calling that out. It’s strictly a convenience change
>> and
>> > > > actually isn’t necessary. I added that in because, at the end of the
>> > day,
>> > > > most components need a PolarisMetaStoreManager, not a
>> > > > MetaStoreManagerFactory. Registering it as a factory meant that
>> > > components
>> > > > could declare a dependency on the PolarisMetaStoreManager interface
>> and
>> > > it
>> > > > would use the factory to create the right instance. Because the
>> factory
>> > > > method is annotated @RealmScope, the instance it creates is
>> specific to
>> > > the
>> > > > realm. I could have done it in the PolarisApplication, as I did the
>> > > > PolarisGrantManagerFactory at
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/collado-mike/polaris/blob/mcollado-hk2-di/polaris-service/src/main/java/org/apache/polaris/service/PolarisApplication.java#L518-L531
>> > > > . I was just lazy when I did that one :) We can keep all the
>> > hk2-specific
>> > > > code out of the core module.
>> > > >
>> > > > I do want to point out where the @RealmScope differs from
>> > @RequestScope -
>> > > > the beans defined in @RequestScope are cleaned up at the end of the
>> > > > request. The ones defined in the @RealmScope are reused across
>> > requests.
>> > > > This makes a difference with classes like the EntityCache that
>> depends
>> > on
>> > > > being able to reuse, e.g., catalogs, but ensure the cache is
>> specific
>> > to
>> > > > the current realm. We can, of course, pass around a bunch of
>> > > > @ApplicationScope factories that return the realm-specific beans,
>> but
>> > > that
>> > > > means we can't do things like add the PolarisGrantManager interface
>> > > without
>> > > > also adding a new realm-specific factory, even if the
>> > PolarisGrantManager
>> > > > implementation is really just the PolarisMetaStoreManager itself. I
>> > > think,
>> > > > ideally, we avoid declaring dependencies on factories and have
>> > components
>> > > > declare dependencies on the specific realm-scoped beans they need
>> and
>> > let
>> > > > the CDI framework work out where the beans come from. This is
>> basically
>> > > > what I was doing with the MetaStoreManagerFactory interface - as I
>> > said,
>> > > I
>> > > > was just being lazy by extending Factory directly.
>> > > >
>> > > > Mike
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 5:08 PM Dmitri Bourlatchkov
>> > > > <dmitri.bourlatch...@dremio.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I had a quite brief look at Mike's HK2 branch, so apologies if I'm
>> > > missing
>> > > >> the bigger picture.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Still, I see that MetaStoreManagerFactory no longer extends the DW
>> > > >> Discoverable, but it extends the HK2 Factory class now. So we're
>> > > basically
>> > > >> trading one framework for another as a code-level runtime
>> dependency.
>> > I
>> > > >> would really like it if we could avoid that.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I think one of the key benefits of Quarkus is abstracting from
>> > framework
>> > > >> code in our class hierarchies. Granted, Quarkus requires certain
>> Web
>> > App
>> > > >> frameworks, but that's at another level. As for CDI, our code under
>> > > >> Quarkus
>> > > >> would only have to have certain annotations, without having to
>> > > >> extend/implement framework interfaces.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Cheers,
>> > > >> Dmitri.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 8:37 PM Michael Collado <
>> > collado.m...@gmail.com>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > FYI, I took a stab at seeing how Polaris would work with HK2 as a
>> > CDI
>> > > >> impl.
>> > > >> > I only spent yesterday and today on this, so it's not complete,
>> but
>> > it
>> > > >> is
>> > > >> > functional and the tests pass :)
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > I took a lot of the common ideas from the Quarkus branch (e.g.,
>> > > deleted
>> > > >> all
>> > > >> > the HasXXX and XXXAware interfaces), but kept the JSON/Yaml
>> config.
>> > I
>> > > >> > figured out how to use the Dropwizard Yaml to specify the
>> > > >> > implementation of, e.g. the Authenticator and the
>> > > >> MetaStoreManagerFactory,
>> > > >> > but have the instances managed and injectable by HK2. The goal
>> there
>> > > >> was to
>> > > >> > just keep the existing configuration format, but change the impl
>> > under
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > hood. I'm not married to the idea and I'm interested to see if
>> the
>> > > >> > jakarta.enterprise.inject.* annotations/interfaces that are used
>> in
>> > > the
>> > > >> > Quarkus branch can make this simpler. However, I do think it
>> would
>> > > >> ideal if
>> > > >> > we can get it working with the existing Yaml configuration, at
>> least
>> > > in
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > short term.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > I did add support for a @RealmScope annotation to support
>> > restricting
>> > > >> items
>> > > >> > to a given realm, such as the EntityCache and the
>> > PolarisGrantManager.
>> > > >> This
>> > > >> > allowed me to do things like hide the grant lookups from the
>> > > >> EntityCache so
>> > > >> > that the Resolver doesn't have to pass around the
>> > > ResolvedPolarisEntity,
>> > > >> > but instead the grants are found from the cache without making it
>> > > overt
>> > > >> in
>> > > >> > the PolarisAuthorizer API. This was one of my original goals with
>> > > >> breaking
>> > > >> > up the PolarisMetaStoreManager API into multiple interfaces.
>> Right
>> > > now,
>> > > >> > everything still ties back to the configured
>> PolarisMetaStoreManager
>> > > >> > implementation, but eventually we can get to where the
>> GrantManager,
>> > > >> > CredentialVendor, etc. can all be swapped out for different
>> > > >> > implementations.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Please take a look at the changes at
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/collado-mike/polaris/compare/c0e8dae5182d33e046216510e2b02b7cf923ffe8...collado-mike:polaris:mcollado-hk2-di
>> > > >> > and let me know what you think.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Mike
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 9:42 AM Michael Collado <
>> > > collado.m...@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > I added a table to the README with the differences that were
>> > called
>> > > >> out.
>> > > >> > I
>> > > >> > > added some details that I think are worth understanding better.
>> > > E.g.,
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > > Json layout we added has specific custom functionality we
>> wanted
>> > for
>> > > >> > > supporting key/value pairs and the micrometer annotation was
>> added
>> > > for
>> > > >> > some
>> > > >> > > custom support we wanted aside from what is supported with the
>> > > default
>> > > >> > > dropwizard metrics support.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/collado-mike/polaris/blob/14865a97ad8f790a9992432d79975c05ff5c36fa/polaris-service-quarkus/README.md
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > I think it would be great if others could add to the table with
>> > > >> features
>> > > >> > > that would be impacted by the migration and to call out the
>> level
>> > of
>> > > >> > effort
>> > > >> > > in both dropwizard and quarkus.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Another possible consideration would be upgrading our
>> Dropwizard
>> > > >> > > dependency to the latest development version. It may be the
>> case
>> > > that
>> > > >> > doing
>> > > >> > > so would address some of the targeted features with less
>> effort in
>> > > >> > > migrating.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Mike
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 5:50 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>> > > j...@nanthrax.net
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >> Hi folks,
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> Following the last community sync meeting, we create a branch
>> > > >> > >> demonstrating use of Quarkus to powered Apache Polaris:
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> https://github.com/jbonofre/polaris/tree/QUARKUS
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> We still have work to do, but you can already take a look and
>> > > >> > >> experiment (in the polaris-service-quarkus module).
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> We added a README.md file to:
>> > > >> > >> 1. Highlight the main differences (in terms of code) between
>> > > >> > >> Dropwizard and Quarkus
>> > > >> > >> 2. To build and run Polaris powered by Quarkus
>> > > >> > >> 3. The list of TODO items
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/jbonofre/polaris/blob/QUARKUS/polaris-service-quarkus/README.md
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> If anyone wants to contribute on the branch before creating
>> the
>> > PR,
>> > > >> > >> please let me know, I will add you as contributor on the
>> branch.
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> Any comments or questions are welcome !
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> Thanks,
>> > > >> > >> Regards
>> > > >> > >> JB
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
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