My biggest concern is the Renovate PRs. The commit message of those is
suitable for being merged "as is" - but the PR description is not.
Given the amount of Renovate-PRs it's a lot of cognitive work to
adjust those - or the commit log would look really really awful with a
ton of not useful information and links - leaking into (automatically
generated) changelogs for releases.

All "human originated" PRs need manual attention anyway.


On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 5:54 PM Eric Maynard <eric.w.mayn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> > Having the list of commits in the merge commit message proposed by GitHub
> helps there.
>
> Can you elaborate on this? How exactly does it help? You can always view
> the commits on the original PR.
>
> Beyond that, I actually don't see these commit messages being added
> currently when I look at recently merged PRs like 1
> <https://github.com/apache/polaris/commit/a0e31b0584437602f30a97ed5fc110c50802d9c1>
>  or 2
> <https://github.com/apache/polaris/commit/a0e31b0584437602f30a97ed5fc110c50802d9c1>.
> They are indeed there by default right now, as you can see in this recent
> commit
> <https://github.com/apache/polaris/commit/145ad3e2715ccb4630e6537de3c077561c86a129>
> which
> includes each commit's message. But my reading of your linked comments
> suggests that committers are meant to *change* the default commit message.
>
> Ajantha's proposed change would make the default commit message more
> closely resemble what you suggest. In fact, for those two linked PRs, it
> looks like the default commit message would have been exactly the same as
> what ultimately got merged.
>
> --EM
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 3:09 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > From technical standpoint, the commit template can be updated via asf.yaml.
> > It’s a change we did on the parser a few months ago.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > Le mer. 9 juil. 2025 à 04:30, Ajantha Bhat <ajanthab...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > While adding the recommendation to working with the PR on site docs,
> > > we have opened an issue https://github.com/apache/polaris/issues/1656 to
> > > update the settings.
> > >
> > > I have discussed with ASF Infra and they mentioned, we can update by
> > > ourselves.
> > > Hence, I opened a PR for the same:
> > > https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/2016
> > >
> > > But it looks like we don't have consensus on this change (based on the
> > > comment on the PR). Hence this discussion.
> > >
> > > I personally think it is good to have these settings as default as the
> > > committer work will be reduced if the PR title and description is proper.
> > > I don't see the drawbacks of this approach yet. Please feel free to
> > mention
> > > your opinion on this.
> > >
> > > - Ajantha
> > >
> >

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