It's a valid concern if that description doesn't match with the commit. But
I'm fine with it as long as we can modify the description at the merging
time.

Yufei


On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 12:07 PM Eric Maynard <eric.w.mayn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If there are things missing from Renovate that mean we can't configure the
> commit messages in the way you'd like that's a shame, but I'm not totally
> sure that needs to be a blocker here. Does the change just need to go to a
> vote?
>
> --EM
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 3:28 AM Robert Stupp <sn...@snazy.de> wrote:
>
> > That would remove the useful information like links
> > release-notes/changelog, effective Renovate config for the PR, ability
> > to re-create the PR, link to Renovate logs, etc
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 6:25 PM Eric Maynard <eric.w.mayn...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Is it possible to adjust the PR description generated by renovate to
> > better
> > > align with what you're looking for? The docs
> > > <https://docs.renovatebot.com/configuration-templates/#pr-body> seem
> to
> > > suggest that it can be done with e.g. {{{commitList}}}
> > >
> > > --EM
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:08 AM Robert Stupp <sn...@snazy.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My biggest concern is the Renovate PRs. The commit message of those
> is
> > > > suitable for being merged "as is" - but the PR description is not.
> > > > Given the amount of Renovate-PRs it's a lot of cognitive work to
> > > > adjust those - or the commit log would look really really awful with
> a
> > > > ton of not useful information and links - leaking into (automatically
> > > > generated) changelogs for releases.
> > > >
> > > > All "human originated" PRs need manual attention anyway.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 5:54 PM Eric Maynard <
> eric.w.mayn...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Robert,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Having the list of commits in the merge commit message proposed
> by
> > > > GitHub
> > > > > helps there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you elaborate on this? How exactly does it help? You can always
> > view
> > > > > the commits on the original PR.
> > > > >
> > > > > Beyond that, I actually don't see these commit messages being added
> > > > > currently when I look at recently merged PRs like 1
> > > > > <
> > > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/commit/a0e31b0584437602f30a97ed5fc110c50802d9c1
> > > > >
> > > > >  or 2
> > > > > <
> > > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/commit/a0e31b0584437602f30a97ed5fc110c50802d9c1
> > > > >.
> > > > > They are indeed there by default right now, as you can see in this
> > recent
> > > > > commit
> > > > > <
> > > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/commit/145ad3e2715ccb4630e6537de3c077561c86a129
> > > > >
> > > > > which
> > > > > includes each commit's message. But my reading of your linked
> > comments
> > > > > suggests that committers are meant to *change* the default commit
> > > > message.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ajantha's proposed change would make the default commit message
> more
> > > > > closely resemble what you suggest. In fact, for those two linked
> > PRs, it
> > > > > looks like the default commit message would have been exactly the
> > same as
> > > > > what ultimately got merged.
> > > > >
> > > > > --EM
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 3:09 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> j...@nanthrax.net
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From technical standpoint, the commit template can be updated via
> > > > asf.yaml.
> > > > > > It’s a change we did on the parser a few months ago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > JB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le mer. 9 juil. 2025 à 04:30, Ajantha Bhat <
> ajanthab...@gmail.com>
> > a
> > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > While adding the recommendation to working with the PR on site
> > docs,
> > > > > > > we have opened an issue
> > > > https://github.com/apache/polaris/issues/1656 to
> > > > > > > update the settings.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have discussed with ASF Infra and they mentioned, we can
> > update by
> > > > > > > ourselves.
> > > > > > > Hence, I opened a PR for the same:
> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/2016
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But it looks like we don't have consensus on this change (based
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > comment on the PR). Hence this discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I personally think it is good to have these settings as default
> > as
> > > > the
> > > > > > > committer work will be reduced if the PR title and description
> is
> > > > proper.
> > > > > > > I don't see the drawbacks of this approach yet. Please feel
> free
> > to
> > > > > > mention
> > > > > > > your opinion on this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Ajantha
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
>

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