I agree with everything you said JB, but I’m not that it addresses the
question around generic tables and the experimental label. In the case of
generic tables the feature is already in 1.0. It will be in 1.1.0.

However we are labeling it “experimental” and the question here is about
under what conditions that label will be removed. Is it some number of
releases? A vote?

We should clarify this process, as right now it seems rather arbitrary. It
appears that there is at least some tenuous connection to releases in the
minds of some community members, as this labeling of the feature as
experimental was reported to be a 1.0 blocker.

—EM

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 13:37 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:

> Hi
>
> As we plan a monthly release pace now, I think we should use “best effort”
> about what’s included in a release. If it’s not in this month release it
> can included in next month one.
> It means that I plan 1.2.0 in September, 1.3.0 in October, etc. IMHO we
> should remove the target release number from roadmap gh discussion and
> instead list what we want by priority: as soon as it’s ready we ship it in
> the month release.
>
> With this approach, and as we will have a release every month, I’m not sure
> a dedicated meeting will help much. Instead I propose we update the
> issues/PRs with target milestone, and if not done at release date, we
> postpone to next month release.
>
> The purpose is to not being too ambitious in terms of what’s included but
> have more frequent and predictable release dates for our users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> Le mar. 29 juil. 2025 à 00:14, Dmitri Bourlatchkov <di...@apache.org> a
> écrit :
>
> > Hi Yufei,
> >
> > > Can you elaborate on it?
> >
> > I proposed discussing (and elaborating on arguments about) the Generic
> > Tables API in a separate thread.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dmitri.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 5:06 PM Yufei Gu <flyrain...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Dmitri,
> > >
> > > Thanks for chiming in. Are there any volunteers to work on Helm chart
> > > separation and CLI client publishing?
> > >
> > > > The related use cases and the future of them are still not clear
> > >
> > > Can you elaborate on it? The Delta table use case is pretty clear to me
> > > that Polaris can host Delta tables and they are accessible from Spark.
> > >
> > > Yufei
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 1:56 PM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <di...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Yufei,
> > > >
> > > > Re: Generic Tables API - I do not think it is ready to be a standard
> > > > feature in 1.1. The related use cases and the future of them are
> still
> > > not
> > > > clear, as far as I can tell. It may be worth having a separate
> > discussion
> > > > thread for this.
> > > >
> > > > +1 to a separate helm repo (I believe this was discussed in another
> > > thread
> > > > too).
> > > >
> > > > +1 to include CLI into the binary bundle.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Dmitri.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 3:12 PM Yufei Gu <flyrain...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The timeline LGTM!
> > > > >
> > > > > We’ll need to align on the scope. In addition to several ongoing
> > > features
> > > > > that should be ready by then, like MinIO support and KMS support
> (PR
> > > > > #1424). There are a few key items(not a complete list) that need
> > > > > discussion:
> > > > >
> > > > >    - Generic Table & Catalog Federation Status: We need to decide
> > > whether
> > > > >    the generic table feature and catalog federation should be moved
> > out
> > > > of
> > > > >    preview. Personally, I’d like to see the generic table feature
> > > > graduate
> > > > >    from preview.
> > > > >    - Helm Chart Repository & Release Strategy: I propose moving the
> > > Helm
> > > > >    Chart to a separate repository and releasing it independently.
> > > > Ideally,
> > > > >    this should be in place by the 1.1.0 release.
> > > > >    - CLI Client Release: I’d like to include the CLI client within
> > the
> > > > >    binary bundle and get it published along with 1.1 release.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd also propose a dedicated community sync for the 1.1 release.
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yufei
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 8:22 AM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <
> > di...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > A mid-August release sounds good to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've added MinIO-related issues to the milestone:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * https://github.com/apache/polaris/issues/1901
> > > > > > * https://github.com/apache/polaris/issues/1530
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Dmitri.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 1:07 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > > j...@nanthrax.net>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I propose to have 1.1.0-incubating release around August 20.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On github:
> > > > > > > 1. I updated 1.1.0 milestone due date
> > > > > > > 2. I will move the open issues still on 1.0.0 milestone to
> 1.1.0
> > > > > > > 3. I will close the 1.0.0 milestone (as it has been released)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My main focus is to review/update/improve the release guide and
> > > move
> > > > > > > forward on semi-automatic release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thoughts ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you agree, feel free to create/assign issues for the 1.1.0
> > > > > milestone.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks !
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > JB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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