>From my POV the "1.1.0" milestone works just as well and causes less
agitation than a "blocker" label :)

We can use it for collecting work items for a release. Whether something is
a blocker probably needs to be discussed on the dev ML anyway.

Cheers,
Dmitri.

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 9:13 AM Eric Maynard <eric.w.mayn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> As far as this thread is concerned, what does everyone think about just
> using a 1.1.0-blocker label similar to the one we had for 1.0 and treating
> that as the source of truth?
>
> If we take that approach, we can hash out the status of some change to
> generic tables as a release blocker on the relevant issue or mailing list
> thread.
>
> —EM
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 21:55 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
> > By the way, specifically about Generic Tables I would still keep it as
> > experimental for the following reasons:
> > 1. We would need more feedback from the community to both evaluate
> > it's an interesting feature (from community standpoint) and it works
> > as the community expects
> > 2. Generic table has been included in 1.0.0, I think would consider at
> > least a couple of features (due to the first point) before considering
> > as non experimental feature. So probably 1.2.0 (e.g. September
> > release) would be a good time to evaluate Generic Table (also with the
> > help of the community).
> > 3. Very selfish :), I have a new proposal that I plan to submit soon
> > that could be a good "complement" of Generic Table.
> >
> > Just my $0.01 :)
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 1:00 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah you are right. It’s probably feature per feature. A discussion on
> > dev can happen to remove the experiment flag. My point is that it’s not
> > related to a release: as soon as the discussion happens and experimental
> > flag is removed it will be included in the next release (monthly).
> > >
> > > Wdyt ?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > Le mar. 29 juil. 2025 à 11:40, Eric Maynard <eric.w.mayn...@gmail.com>
> > a écrit :
> > >>
> > >> I agree with everything you said JB, but I’m not that it addresses the
> > >> question around generic tables and the experimental label. In the case
> > of
> > >> generic tables the feature is already in 1.0. It will be in 1.1.0.
> > >>
> > >> However we are labeling it “experimental” and the question here is
> about
> > >> under what conditions that label will be removed. Is it some number of
> > >> releases? A vote?
> > >>
> > >> We should clarify this process, as right now it seems rather
> arbitrary.
> > It
> > >> appears that there is at least some tenuous connection to releases in
> > the
> > >> minds of some community members, as this labeling of the feature as
> > >> experimental was reported to be a 1.0 blocker.
> > >>
> > >> —EM
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 13:37 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi
> > >> >
> > >> > As we plan a monthly release pace now, I think we should use “best
> > effort”
> > >> > about what’s included in a release. If it’s not in this month
> release
> > it
> > >> > can included in next month one.
> > >> > It means that I plan 1.2.0 in September, 1.3.0 in October, etc. IMHO
> > we
> > >> > should remove the target release number from roadmap gh discussion
> and
> > >> > instead list what we want by priority: as soon as it’s ready we ship
> > it in
> > >> > the month release.
> > >> >
> > >> > With this approach, and as we will have a release every month, I’m
> > not sure
> > >> > a dedicated meeting will help much. Instead I propose we update the
> > >> > issues/PRs with target milestone, and if not done at release date,
> we
> > >> > postpone to next month release.
> > >> >
> > >> > The purpose is to not being too ambitious in terms of what’s
> included
> > but
> > >> > have more frequent and predictable release dates for our users.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thoughts ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards
> > >> > JB
> > >> >
> > >> > Le mar. 29 juil. 2025 à 00:14, Dmitri Bourlatchkov <
> di...@apache.org>
> > a
> > >> > écrit :
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Yufei,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Can you elaborate on it?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I proposed discussing (and elaborating on arguments about) the
> > Generic
> > >> > > Tables API in a separate thread.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > > Dmitri.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 5:06 PM Yufei Gu <flyrain...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi Dmitri,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks for chiming in. Are there any volunteers to work on Helm
> > chart
> > >> > > > separation and CLI client publishing?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > The related use cases and the future of them are still not
> clear
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Can you elaborate on it? The Delta table use case is pretty
> clear
> > to me
> > >> > > > that Polaris can host Delta tables and they are accessible from
> > Spark.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Yufei
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 1:56 PM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <
> > di...@apache.org>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi Yufei,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Re: Generic Tables API - I do not think it is ready to be a
> > standard
> > >> > > > > feature in 1.1. The related use cases and the future of them
> are
> > >> > still
> > >> > > > not
> > >> > > > > clear, as far as I can tell. It may be worth having a separate
> > >> > > discussion
> > >> > > > > thread for this.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > +1 to a separate helm repo (I believe this was discussed in
> > another
> > >> > > > thread
> > >> > > > > too).
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > +1 to include CLI into the binary bundle.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Cheers,
> > >> > > > > Dmitri.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 3:12 PM Yufei Gu <
> flyrain...@gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > The timeline LGTM!
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > We’ll need to align on the scope. In addition to several
> > ongoing
> > >> > > > features
> > >> > > > > > that should be ready by then, like MinIO support and KMS
> > support
> > >> > (PR
> > >> > > > > > #1424). There are a few key items(not a complete list) that
> > need
> > >> > > > > > discussion:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >    - Generic Table & Catalog Federation Status: We need to
> > decide
> > >> > > > whether
> > >> > > > > >    the generic table feature and catalog federation should
> be
> > moved
> > >> > > out
> > >> > > > > of
> > >> > > > > >    preview. Personally, I’d like to see the generic table
> > feature
> > >> > > > > graduate
> > >> > > > > >    from preview.
> > >> > > > > >    - Helm Chart Repository & Release Strategy: I propose
> > moving the
> > >> > > > Helm
> > >> > > > > >    Chart to a separate repository and releasing it
> > independently.
> > >> > > > > Ideally,
> > >> > > > > >    this should be in place by the 1.1.0 release.
> > >> > > > > >    - CLI Client Release: I’d like to include the CLI client
> > within
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > >    binary bundle and get it published along with 1.1
> release.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I'd also propose a dedicated community sync for the 1.1
> > release.
> > >> > > > > Thoughts?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Yufei
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 8:22 AM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <
> > >> > > di...@apache.org>
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > A mid-August release sounds good to me.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > I've added MinIO-related issues to the milestone:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > * https://github.com/apache/polaris/issues/1901
> > >> > > > > > > * https://github.com/apache/polaris/issues/1530
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > >> > > > > > > Dmitri.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 1:07 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > >> > > > j...@nanthrax.net>
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Hi folks,
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > I propose to have 1.1.0-incubating release around August
> > 20.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > On github:
> > >> > > > > > > > 1. I updated 1.1.0 milestone due date
> > >> > > > > > > > 2. I will move the open issues still on 1.0.0 milestone
> to
> > >> > 1.1.0
> > >> > > > > > > > 3. I will close the 1.0.0 milestone (as it has been
> > released)
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > My main focus is to review/update/improve the release
> > guide and
> > >> > > > move
> > >> > > > > > > > forward on semi-automatic release.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Thoughts ?
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > If you agree, feel free to create/assign issues for the
> > 1.1.0
> > >> > > > > > milestone.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Thanks !
> > >> > > > > > > > Regards
> > >> > > > > > > > JB
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> >
>

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