Hi Caio,
Caio Tiago Oliveira a écrit :
Neither Sun or OOo have enough resources (or interest from Sun) to fix
every Mac OS X bug someone finds on a CWS.
To be more precise, we have hardware resources ( Community and Sun
people have Macs, that's sure ).
Recently Cusoon helped the Mac port with a donation of 1500 euros, to
buy a laptop.
+ we have other machines.
What is mainly missing :
- time
- human resources - coders with a good Carbon and/or a good
OpenOffice.org knowledge -
- source code knowledge ( mainly design knowledge : where is what in
this ocean of code ? )
What was done here? Mac OS X port was broken because of fixing issues
with the MinGW port.
Should the Mac OS X port to raise an issue, create a CWS, fix it and
don't care if it break the MinGW port?
This is an important point.
Maybe Sun doesn't like it because although MinGW is not the official way
of building OOo on Windows it's on a Sun supported platform.
I know very well the difference between officially supported ports,
experimental ones and non-officially supported ones working very well.
...
Mac OS X is stable, as a port, and vibrant, as a project.
The entire Mac Team say you a vibrant "thank you very much ! " :)
Anyway, we are not arrived, and we have a lot of work ...
The OOo community should care about breaking the Mac OS X build the same
way it cares for Linux.
+1
I believe a red flag for Solaris would buy Sun attention and that
wouldn't have been nominated.
We should discuss the process of QA'ing for Mac OS X.
Indeed. Historically, and since the begining Mac OS X port is very
dynamic with QA - AFAIK, german, japanese and french communities are -
and I'm sure a high quality work is already done. ( Many thanks to the
people helping us BTW ! )
So what does not work ?
I'm not sure to be enough precise, but every time we try to discuss
about QA points in Mac OS X IRC meetings ( see
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Port_Meetings ) , we
have not too much informations, and sometimes we have nothing at all.
This is not a very big issue, but a better coordination would help. Of
course, any suggestion / contribution is welcome :)
Don't to enforce anything, but would be good to have Mac OS X users willing to help with
the QA of some global CWS's.
We already have, but we lost some QA-testers ( at least on french
project) with repeated QA for rc1 .. to rc7 : all people are volunteers,
and do QA after the Office hours, often late in the night, and ask them
to redo several time the same test was not a good option.
Off course, if had been granted (from the developer, qa-responsible or defined by us) that his work would be taken
into account and introducing issues for Mac OS X would be a stopper for its nomination.
+1 again
Regards,
Eric Bachard
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