Hi Kay,
On 23 Mar 2007, at 09:20, Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote:
[...]
IMHO, none of these options are suitable for practical life. The
only real solution (which needs to scale well) I scan see is, to
provide access e.g. to Macs, to allow a developer to fix the
issue him-/herself.
*hmm* my understanding is that access to macs is at least partial
available via buildbots provided by the community, but that´s
probably not what you meant, of course.
I fear, that turnaround times are too high. So, OOo builds from
scratch on a local Linux box in under an hour, which nearly is
"real time" :-) I don't know how fast e.g. Mac can build?!
My 2GHz MacBook Intel Core Duo with 2GB of RAM (more RAM is important
at reducing build time) is building ooo at anywhere between just over
3 hours and 8 hours for clean builds, depending on the type of
parallel build used and what else is happening on the machine at the
same time. An un-optimised 2.66GHz Mac Pro can build in 1 hour and 20
mins. When I was in Hamburg in December, I didn't get around to
optimising the build process with ccache to see how much speed up
there is. I think that the build time would be able to come down to
under an hour (though you then have to take into account the time to
update from CVS). Even at 1 hour 20 mins, an upload of the
installsets takes longer with my internet connection.
By the way, it would be nice, to offer a buttom to retrigger
tinderbox builds,
I have also heard that feature wish already and I think too that
this would be a nice idea. But as far as I know that´s currently
not possible with how tinderboxes currently work. If it becomes
possible to trigger tinderbox builds somehow i would surely offer
to provide a button for that in EIS also.
Obviously I have to inform myself some more ...
>and certainly a buildbot would be nice as well.
Speaking about buildbots: TERMITE is now also visible in EIS you
can find that at the menu at "MISC / Termit Main Page". There are
Wiki entries for Termite and Tinderbox on OOoWiki.
Is there are fundamental difference between tinderboxes and
buildbots? I thought tinderboxes are kind of similar, with the
difference, that they don't need to be triggered manually.
There is another difference, a buildbot requires to be on-line as
they send the logs back live, whilst the tinderboxes send them back
in a batch. The next version of the buildbot, which is nearing
completion, will be able to do automatic rebuilding of CWSes. Another
advantage of buildbots, is that they are able to be used to get
installsets, or to build with specific build options, if requested.
[...]
Shaun
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