Hello Kendy, *,
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:45:31AM +0200, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 May 2010, Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
> 
> > I couldn't accept (as a member of the QA project on OOo) that we
> > have to spend resources of the OOo project to making QA* in OOo
> > derivatives which doesn't spend resources for this project and
> > which doesn't contribute their code.
> 
> Sure, understood, but we are talking about go-oo; go-oo developers contribute 
> code up-stream.

and the developer from other places/distros? Do they not contribute 
code upstream ;?

> > The resources will be missing for making Quality Assurance for 
> > the OOo (vanilla) and will lead to a worser quality of all OOo 
> > derivatives. This isn't acceptable for me, perhaps for you too.

+1

> I am afraid I did not explain my proposal well enough, sorry for 
> that :-(

It seems so ... ;)

> Currently, when you, as a QA person, find out that a bug is not 
> present in the up-stream version, you just close it as invalid, 
> which helps no-one - the reporter is just confused, you have to 
> spend time explaining why it is invalid, and go-oo maintainers do 
> not learn about that bug, which - as Charles and Mechtilde pointed 
> out - might in the end affect the perception of the entire OOo.

+1

> I would like to ask you to try the alias solution I proposed.  I 
> have just created a go_oo_b...@openoffice.org user; if you find 
> out that a bug is invalid in up-stream, but the reporter talks 
> about a particular Linux distro (openSUSE, Debian, Ubuntu, ...), 
> just reassign it to go_oo_b...@openoffice.org, instead of setting 
> it as 'invalid'.  The notification will go to our mailing list 
> (ooo-bu...@lists.freedesktop.org at the moment, and I asked for a 
> dedicated one), and no other work for you - we will take care of 
> the rest.

I think, this would only be useful, if any distro has its own alias 
and therefore a person/team, which gets the mail for this alias, 
coordinate its distribution to his/her teammates and the like ...

> Do you think it might work for you, please?

Not sure about ... :( /If/ every distro creates an alias, /if/ the 
appropriate team is responsible for these issues ... And then the 
team behind one alias should create an workflow between handling 
their own BTS/IZ and issues in OOo upstream ... ;) But I am not 
sure, how practicable this would be ... :(

Just one other idea: Would it be helpful to set "[$distro]" in front 
of the summary line of an issue to filter the issues for $distro?
Just my thoughts in this longish discussion ... ;)
Thomas.

-- 
An ounce of hypocrisy is worth a pound of ambition.
                -- Michael Korda

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