Hi Alan,

Regarding your question on Number of proposed PMCs, I am not sure how this
is proposed. In resolution I counted only the number of PMC members which
is 10 people. I got those numbers from Ranger Team members list
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/team-list.html. Should this be the
number of members in the Ranger Apache poling from Apache Phonebook?

Regarding chair affiliation I shall correct that in my Ranger project
summary for graduation. Since there is no chair for the Ranger PMC, I need
input from Mentors on how this proposal process is done.

Regarding requesting Ranger Mentors to be part of PMC, let me send out a
separate email and address this.

Thanks for your detailed input.

Ramesh



On 11/22/16, 3:52 PM, "Alan Gates" <[email protected]> wrote:

>+1 for getting this process started.
>
>Ramesh, this is a very nice summary of where the project’s at.
>
>I looked through the maturity assessment and the podling status.  We’ve
>made a number of releases and grown the community.  There’s reasonable
>diversity in the committers.
>
>One question I had is how you arrived at the proposed PMC.  Per the
>Apache phonebook ( http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html ) there’s 18
>members of the podling.  Yet the resolution has only 10 people.  How was
>that decided?        In a related question there appear to be community
>members who will be committers but not PMC members.  How was that
>distinction drawn?  And how is it known that the chair will be from
>Hortonworks, since no chair is yet named in the proposal below?
>
>Also, I’ve seen in many podlings it is helpful to keep one or more of the
>mentors on the PMC for the first year, as they can continue to give
>guidance.  Also, the mentors are often Apache members and thus have a
>deep knowledge of Apache ways that can come in helpful.  I’m not saying
>you have to keep all of the mentors but you should ask around and see
>which of them would be willing to stay on.
>
>As to the process of graduation, see
>http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>
>Next steps:
>1) Propose a chair for the PMC.
>2) Answer any mentor concerns or questions
>3) Formally vote on the resolution in the dev list
>4) Propose graduation in the IPMC
>5) Vote on graduation in the IPMC
>6) Do all the work of actually graduating
>
>Alan.
>
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 14:23, Ramesh Mani <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Sending this email again because of some formatting issue and correction
>> in my earlier email.
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Mentors,
>> 
>> Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the
>> graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>> 
>> Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process.
>>One
>> thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger".
>> Is this something ranger community decide and elect?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ramesh
>> 
>> 
>> Project Graduation email content:
>> 
>> 
>> Project Status:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html
>> 
>> Project website:
>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org <http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/>
>> 
>> Project Documentation:
>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html
>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders
>> 
>> Project maturity Assessment:
>> 
>>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+
>>Ma
>> turity+Model
>> 
>> 
>> DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email
>> Proposed PMC size: 15
>> 
>> Total number of committers   : 14 members
>> Total number of contributors : 22 members
>> 
>> PMC affiliation (* indicated chair)
>> 
>> * Hortonworks (7)
>> Privacera (2)
>> BlueTalon (1)
>> 
>> 1802 commits on develop
>> 8 PR’s on GitHub
>> 22 contributors across all branches
>> Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016
>> User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016
>> 1208 issues created
>> 997 issues resolved
>> 
>> Committer’s affiliation:
>> Active:
>> Hortonworks
>> Talend 
>> Freestone infotech
>> BlueTalon
>> eBay
>> other
>> 
>> Resolution:
>> 
>> Establish the Apache Ranger Project
>> 
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to
>>establish a
>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>related
>> to a data management platform That provides real-time, consistent access
>> to data-intensive applications throughout widely distributed cloud
>> architectures.
>> 
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for
>> the creation and maintenance of software related to a data management
>> platform that provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive
>> applications throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and
>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ranger
>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>>projects
>> within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ranger Project; and be
>>it
>> further
>> 
>> RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project:
>> 
>> Balaji Ganesan                       [email protected]
>> Don Bosco Durai                      [email protected]
>> Dilli Arumugam                       [email protected]
>> Kevin Minder                         [email protected]
>> Larry Mccay                          [email protected]
>> Madhanmohan Neethiraj                        [email protected]
>> Ramesh Mani                                  [email protected]
>> Sanjay Radia                                 [email protected]
>> Selvamohan Neethiraj                         [email protected]
>> Velmurugan Periasamy                         [email protected]
>> 
>> NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that "XXXXXX" be appointed to the
>> office of Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and
>> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked
>>with
>> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
>>and
>> increased participation in the
>> Apache Ranger Project; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with
>>the
>> migration of the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> Ranger polling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
>>hereafter
>> discharged.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Mentors -
>>> 
>>> The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for
>>> Apache
>>> Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready
>>>for
>>> this discussion to begin.
>>> 
>>> Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and
>>>how
>>> to
>>> drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board?
>>> 
>>> I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to
>>>go
>>> through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that
>>>can
>>> be provided would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> 
>>> --larry
>> 
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