Never mind on the last part about keeping mentors. I see you sent a separate email on that. Thanks.
Alan. > On Nov 28, 2016, at 14:57, Alan Gates <[email protected]> wrote: > > So you took those on the PPMC and put them on the PMC, and those who were > committers remain committers. The other option many podlings take is to put > everyone who’s part of the podling onto the PMC. Either is fine, but the > podling should discuss it and agree. I haven’t seen any discussion so far > beyond this thread, but perhaps I’ve missed it. > > Also, did you have any feedback on the recommendation that you keep at least > one of the mentors on the PMC? Again, I think this should be discussed in > the podling. > > Alan. > >> On Nov 22, 2016, at 17:49, Ramesh Mani <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Alan, >> >> Regarding your question on Number of proposed PMCs, I am not sure how this >> is proposed. In resolution I counted only the number of PMC members which >> is 10 people. I got those numbers from Ranger Team members list >> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/team-list.html. Should this be the >> number of members in the Ranger Apache poling from Apache Phonebook? >> >> Regarding chair affiliation I shall correct that in my Ranger project >> summary for graduation. Since there is no chair for the Ranger PMC, I need >> input from Mentors on how this proposal process is done. >> >> Regarding requesting Ranger Mentors to be part of PMC, let me send out a >> separate email and address this. >> >> Thanks for your detailed input. >> >> Ramesh >> >> >> >> On 11/22/16, 3:52 PM, "Alan Gates" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> +1 for getting this process started. >>> >>> Ramesh, this is a very nice summary of where the project’s at. >>> >>> I looked through the maturity assessment and the podling status. We’ve >>> made a number of releases and grown the community. There’s reasonable >>> diversity in the committers. >>> >>> One question I had is how you arrived at the proposed PMC. Per the >>> Apache phonebook ( http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html ) there’s 18 >>> members of the podling. Yet the resolution has only 10 people. How was >>> that decided? In a related question there appear to be community >>> members who will be committers but not PMC members. How was that >>> distinction drawn? And how is it known that the chair will be from >>> Hortonworks, since no chair is yet named in the proposal below? >>> >>> Also, I’ve seen in many podlings it is helpful to keep one or more of the >>> mentors on the PMC for the first year, as they can continue to give >>> guidance. Also, the mentors are often Apache members and thus have a >>> deep knowledge of Apache ways that can come in helpful. I’m not saying >>> you have to keep all of the mentors but you should ask around and see >>> which of them would be willing to stay on. >>> >>> As to the process of graduation, see >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html >>> >>> Next steps: >>> 1) Propose a chair for the PMC. >>> 2) Answer any mentor concerns or questions >>> 3) Formally vote on the resolution in the dev list >>> 4) Propose graduation in the IPMC >>> 5) Vote on graduation in the IPMC >>> 6) Do all the work of actually graduating >>> >>> Alan. >>> >>>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 14:23, Ramesh Mani <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sending this email again because of some formatting issue and correction >>>> in my earlier email. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Mentors, >>>> >>>> Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the >>>> graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html. >>>> >>>> Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process. >>>> One >>>> thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger". >>>> Is this something ranger community decide and elect? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ramesh >>>> >>>> >>>> Project Graduation email content: >>>> >>>> >>>> Project Status: >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html >>>> >>>> Project website: >>>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org <http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/> >>>> >>>> Project Documentation: >>>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html >>>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders >>>> >>>> Project maturity Assessment: >>>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+ >>>> Ma >>>> turity+Model >>>> >>>> >>>> DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email >>>> Proposed PMC size: 15 >>>> >>>> Total number of committers : 14 members >>>> Total number of contributors : 22 members >>>> >>>> PMC affiliation (* indicated chair) >>>> >>>> * Hortonworks (7) >>>> Privacera (2) >>>> BlueTalon (1) >>>> >>>> 1802 commits on develop >>>> 8 PR’s on GitHub >>>> 22 contributors across all branches >>>> Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016 >>>> User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016 >>>> 1208 issues created >>>> 997 issues resolved >>>> >>>> Committer’s affiliation: >>>> Active: >>>> Hortonworks >>>> Talend >>>> Freestone infotech >>>> BlueTalon >>>> eBay >>>> other >>>> >>>> Resolution: >>>> >>>> Establish the Apache Ranger Project >>>> >>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of >>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to >>>> establish a >>>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance >>>> of >>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, >>>> related >>>> to a data management platform That provides real-time, consistent access >>>> to data-intensive applications throughout widely distributed cloud >>>> architectures. >>>> >>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee >>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is >>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further >>>> >>>> RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for >>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to a data management >>>> platform that provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive >>>> applications throughout widely distributed cloud architectures. >>>> >>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and >>>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the >>>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ranger >>>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the >>>> projects >>>> within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ranger Project; and be >>>> it >>>> further >>>> >>>> RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are >>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project: >>>> >>>> Balaji Ganesan [email protected] >>>> Don Bosco Durai [email protected] >>>> Dilli Arumugam [email protected] >>>> Kevin Minder [email protected] >>>> Larry Mccay [email protected] >>>> Madhanmohan Neethiraj [email protected] >>>> Ramesh Mani [email protected] >>>> Sanjay Radia [email protected] >>>> Selvamohan Neethiraj [email protected] >>>> Velmurugan Periasamy [email protected] >>>> >>>> NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that "XXXXXX" be appointed to the >>>> office of Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and >>>> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the >>>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or >>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked >>>> with >>>> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development >>>> and >>>> increased participation in the >>>> Apache Ranger Project; and be it further >>>> >>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with >>>> the >>>> migration of the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further >>>> >>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator >>>> Ranger polling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are >>>> hereafter >>>> discharged. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Mentors - >>>>> >>>>> The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for >>>>> Apache >>>>> Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready >>>>> for >>>>> this discussion to begin. >>>>> >>>>> Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and >>>>> how >>>>> to >>>>> drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board? >>>>> >>>>> I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to >>>>> go >>>>> through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that >>>>> can >>>>> be provided would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> thanks! >>>>> >>>>> --larry >>>> >>> >>> >> >
